Hard Work and the Real Meaning of Wealth

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  1. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    Here is a very hard-hitting review about the on-going struggle between the "haves" and the "have-nots" in our society and what really motiviates our high-tech angry youths.

    Are the criminally minded young Americans and Britons "turning to violence in protest over inequality, poverty, and bleak opportunities" or are these people noothing more than spoiled children who have a sense of "entitlement" to other people's personal property?

    "We can argue whether those who loot a computer store are spoiled or oppressed. But even a person in faded jeans and a worn T-shirt can find all sorts of spiritual enrichment at no cost in either a museum or a good book. Have we forgotten that in our affluent postmodern society, being poor is often an impoverishment of the mind, and not necessarily the result of a cruel physical world?"

     
  2. James Cessna

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    Here is an angry face and destructive behavior only a mother can love! Mayor Michael A. Nutter, telling marauding black youths in Philadelphia, “you have damaged your own race,” imposed a tougher curfew Monday in response to the latest “flash mob” — spontaneous groups of teens who attack people at random on the streets of the city’s tourist and fashionable shopping districts.

    “Take those God-darn hoodies down, especially in the summer,” Mr. Nutter, the city’s third black mayor, said in an angry lecture aimed at black teens. “Pull your pants up and buy a belt ‘cause no one wants to see your underwear or the crack of your butt.”
     
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    Cessna,

    Good point.

    That said...and for the record...don't be at all suprised if the "post-modern poor" misinterpret the dubious benefits of relative poverty that is their lot and come looking for a slim measure of equality at a front door looking curiously like yours...or anyone who enjoys another $1000 per annum...the new measure of wealth.

    Here's the point...it's the wealth delta function that determines whose house is raided. The poor raid the not-so-poor...the starving raid the King.

    Thus it has always been [See French Revolution].

    I only ask that...your having informed the poor of their great good fortune...when they come for your food...you do not bore is with your whining at the tragedy of it.
     
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    hard work does mean real wealth lol


    blacks have to be three times better than any white person. White people have most evil racist human beings to walk on america soil and history proves that.
     
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    The thrust of this thread is to identify the future trend of the haves and have nots, right? Our next generation's professions... the future itself???
     
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    starbow New Member Past Donor

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    I understand that the Honorable Reverand Louis Farrakhan's Islamic Spaceship of Death is arriving soon inside the next close pass comet - are you packed and ready to go?

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Real wealth has nothing to do with materialism.

    Having lots of money and things is being rich.

    Having love, respect, friendship, loyalty, compassion, tolerance, inner balance and laughter are the true measures of human wealth. And everyone on earth is capable of being wealthy.

    OTOH, when western society places so much emphasis on consumerism and measures status by having the latest and greatest, when you are poor and young you get frustrated and angry.

    This misdirection of anger is caused by the inputs these yutes receive from the all surrounding embrace of media. If they got angry at themselves for not getting an education, or acquiring a trade, or making a positive contribution to those around them, maybe this kind of hooligan behaviour would be an anomoly and not a symptom of these peoples societal dysfunction.
     
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    It is probably an undeserved sense of entitlement that many have in our society. It's the parents and the teachers fault.
     
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    It's nobody's business how they wear their clothes. That's not the problem.
     
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    Oh come on. Do you have any proof of that? Or are you just talking out your ass. Racism does still exist, but far less than you think. THere are plenty of white people who couldn't care less about race.
     
  11. James Cessna

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    You are very mistaken, discovery721.

    The black Mayor, Michael A. Nutter, disagrees with you.

    Here is what the mayor has said.

    Mayor Michael A. Nutter, telling marauding black youths in Philadelphia, “you have damaged your own race,”
     
  12. oldjar07

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    Whoever is smarter get the wealth. Apparently, white people are 3 times smarter than black people. If you're going to post something racist, I'll go along with it.
     
  13. armor99

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    Actually... the way that I see it... it IS! It all has to do with self respect. How you choose to show yourself to the world, has a lot to say about who you are as a person. Sure there are style differences, but that is not really what I am talking about. Choosing to dress in a sloppy way because you are lazy, or do not really care what others think when they see you (rather than doing so purposely) is a problem in my opinion.

    Let me try to clarify a bit about what I mean. I think the clearest example that I can think of might be getting a tattoo. I do not have any, but I really do not have anything against them per say. But if you ARE going to get a tattoo, then you would hope that you would put some time and thought into doing such a thing that will be on your body for the rest of your life.

    I might not agree with it, but I can completely see how someone might want a tattoo of a child, past relative, perhaps a symbol of special significance, etc, to adorn themselves with. But more often then not when a person is asked what their tattoo is, and why they did it, you find it was a spur of the moment, perhaps alcohol fueled decision. In my opinion, that takes a tattoo.... and turns it into a self mutilation. Think about that.... you have such little self respect for yourself that you would slap something on your body forever, without a moments thought.

    I fully understand that clothing is a far cry from a tattoo. But some of the thought processes that go on... or do not go on.... are the same. If you show up at a job interview reeking because you could not be bothered to bathe that morning, and your clothes are wrinkeled and unkempt, because you did not bother to do iron them. Why should you be surprised when you are not hired? And yet hundreds of people seemed to be shocked that somehow the world did not comform to THIER wishes. When you are the CEO.... you get to make the rules... until then.... learn the rules of the game and live by them.... you will probably be a happier person....
     
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    I don't care how people dress. It is a waste of time to dress up, so I'd be more impressed with someone who isn't dressed up than with someone who is. I don't get why people care how other people dress. It's a stupid tradition that dates back a long time ago. We need to get rid of this stupid tradition. Why dress up for church? Isn't it more important that you're there than worrying about how you dress.
     
  15. discovery721

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    Well good for him. He can say what he wants. The rest of the world knows that people act as individuals, not as "races". I don't automatically associate myself with all other white people.. It's still none of his business what young people wear.
     
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    Yes, someone's choice of clothing can tell a lot about a person. But it is no one else's business to tell anyone else how to dress. Each person has the freedom to dress how he or she pleases. I guess everyone has the freedom to tell others how to dress, but no one is obliged to listen.
     
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    And this is actually the point of my posting.... People like yourself believe that the world should conform to your wishes. That societies norms should not apply to you. It really does not matter if it makes sense to you or not. Or even if you like it or not. You can conform and prosper, or you can spend a lifetime being angry and upset.
     
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    True.... but a person should not be surprised when they cannot get a job because of it. The world will not conform for you.... YOU must conform to the world. To a certain extent anyway. I always laugh when I hear stories of the guy that has tattoos all over his face, and then actually has the nerve to threaten to SUE the guy that did not hire him, because somehow or another the company MUST ACCEPT him for how he is!

    It is sort of like women that choose to go out to the bars wearing almost no clothing at all, and then get indignant when they are stared at. As though somehow that should not have happened....
     
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    I choose to conform and be angry and upset. Best of both worlds if you ask me :-D
     
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    Totally. Let them learn that on their own... Also, what people wear during their free time is probably not the same thing they wear to a job interview... For example I look like a complete slob right now, but it's 2am in my bedroom with no one around. When I go back to school in a week and classes start I will be dressed a lot nicer... Hopefully.
     
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    What's the point in dressing nice for an interview? Why does that determine if you're hired or not? It's a waste of time and money dressing nice for things. It is a stupid tradition and should be banned.
     
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    You just couldn't help yourself could you, Cessna? You had to find a picture of an African American to paste up there in the forum, didn't you?

    You may not be a racist... but I darned sure do question whether or not that's true, based upon your patterns of criticism.
     
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    You NAILED it!! Thank you for relating the proper message; one that ALL of America needs to hear and heed (even the "rich" amongst us).
     
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    Every employee represents the company and its owners. The appearance of every person in the company affects the impression that customers get of that company. If customers get a bad impression, they will go elsewhere and the company will lose money.

    You may feel it is wrong to be judged by appearance, but humans naturally do so. An employer will hire people that will ensure customers get the right impression of the company and will choose to spend their money there.
     
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    HIV - I'd love to see yourself, and Mayor Nutter in a debate. The mayor, telling it how it has to be. And you, blaming everyone else for you own shorcomings.....

    That would be a "Priceless" debate indeed.....
     

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