Bachmann: Americans fear 'rise of Soviet Union'

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am genuinely frightened.

    No, dear reader, not of the apparently imminent rise of the conglomeration of countries that actually collapsed two decades ago. No, that part does not scare me.

    What scares me is that the apparent front runner for the GOP in the presidential race does not know this. This is not complex stuff. this is not some remote little country that no one ever heard of like Bhutan (okay, I just wanted to show off the brain on that one) but this was the breakup of a perceived enemy that we played military chess with for decades. How in the holy hell does she consider them a threat? They do not even exist.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communi...8/michele-bachmann-soviet-union-/1?csp=34news

    GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann said today that Americans "fear the rise of the Soviet Union" during an appearance on a conservative radio talk show.

    The Soviet Union broke up into 15 separate republics 20 years ago. Boris Yeltsin was the first freely elected leader of Russia, the largest of those republics.

    "What people recognize is that there's a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward," Bachmann said on Jay Sekulow's radio show.

    Bachmann, a Minnesota congresswoman, was trying to explain that Americans are concerned about issues in addition to jobs and the economy.

    Bachmann's comment about the Soviet Union is making the rounds in the blogosphere. It was first reported by People for the American Way's Right Wing Watch and picked up by websites such as ThinkProgress, a project of the left-leaning Center for American Progress.

    The GOP presidential candidate has flubbed some facts in history before, such as when she mistakenly said that the Revolutionary War battles of Lexington and Concord occurred in New Hampshire. This week, she mistakenly wished Elvis Presley a "happy birthday" on the anniversary of his death.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The Soviets vanished? I thought they stayed involved in Russian politics.


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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Shes prolly talking about America being the new soviet union.
     
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    Commies, like George Soros, came to the New World....
     
  5. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You see, this is why your posts lack any credibility. You take a topic, and then like to pretend that i was actually speaking about something else.

    There is no more Soviet Union.

    Now I understand that some folks will do anythign to excuse the idiocy of Bachmann, and do anythign to not criticize those in their own party, up to and including pretending that I said something I did not.

    'But are you hurting me or your posts credibility?
     
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    I was just reading the Daily Bhutanian today and read this:


    Putin Calls U.S. ‘Parasite’ as Russia Gobbles Its Debt

    For Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, the U.S. is a “parasite” because its rising debt weighs on the global economy. For his government, the same debt is the safest possible investment.

    Russia, the world’s largest energy producer, has boosted its holdings of U.S. debt by more than 1,600 percent since September 2006, according to U.S. Treasury Department data. Russia used surging commodity prices to build the world’s third- largest reserves pile, boosted in part by return on Treasuries.

    Putin, 58, who oversaw the largest buildup of U.S. debt holdings in Russia’s history as president from 2000 to 2008, may return to the post after elections next year. The country is now one of the world’s 10 largest holders of the securities with $110 billion at the end of June, about 70 percent more than when Putin left the Kremlin.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...site-after-1-600-jump-in-russia-holdings.html


    Isn't Putin one of those vanishing Soviets?


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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, she was speaking of the current communists in Russia reforming a Soviet Union. Did you ever consider that?


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    Yes, but according to the left handed.... he doesnt exist....
     
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    The way she phrased it, she seems to imply that people fear that we are going to be militarily defeated by India, China, or Russia.

    Yeah, the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore....but that's just her ignorance... I think the bigger point is that she is eluding to some sort of existential world war in which we would lose.


    Some people are afraid of that and see it as an imminent threat....but they're in the tin foil hat club.
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. Here is what I considered.

    Bachmann said something incredibly stupid. Her mindless followers are reinterpreting it and trying to spin it into something it was no because of their complete and utter ability to actual admit that she is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot and by extension they support a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot.
     
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    You just figured that out. It happens some on both side, but the right wing blinders are really complete blindfolds.
     
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    The Soviet Union does exist today if not in name, in form; presently, it consists of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. There's certainly a possibility of other vassal (I mean friendly) countries once again forming a Union with Russia, if certain political factions will get their way. Bachmann seems to understand that and you, Sir, don't have the froggiest idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Yeah, in the same way that the royalty is still involved in French politics...
     
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    So it is not the same name, and it is not the same group oif countries, and it is not the same size, and some of it's former members are it's enemies, and Russia is not longer a communist country, but it still exists?

    Man, that is one giant stretch there.
     
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    "fear the rise of the Soviet Union" isn't the same thing as "fear the rebirth of the Soviet Union or its equivalent".
     
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    Watch out for the Third Reich as well.

    I hear they have bad intentions.



    ......I guess she's a little slow on the historical uptake...
     
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    There's no stretch. It would be a giant stretch to grant you some objectivity toward Bachmann, and judging by the most of your posts, it is :mrgreen:
     
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    "Think for myself" still has a point. The Soviet Union, as a distinct political entity, does not exist currently and will not exist again. Naturally, Slavic countries will still have close diplomatic relations amongst themselves, just as we're cozy with England and Canada and other countries that possess a Western cultural commonality, though we probably won't form any sort of union.

    Bachmann's statement plays to decades-old socialist propaganda that is unmerited, and misrepresents both the country of Russia and American popular opinion. I'm more concerned over the GOP ticket than I am over a communist takeover.
     
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    Objective observation ought to inform anyone that Bachmann's fitness for office is, at the very least, questionable.
     
  20. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah... Neo-Nazi's are peace loving, law abiding, misunderstood kids who just want to have some fun...
     
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    So we don't need to add them to Bachmann's "likely to military confront the U.S." Fear List?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were you just as objective considering Obama for the office, what's with him already visiting 57 States and wishing to visit more?
     
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    So how does she deduce from that that Americans are in fear of a Soviet Union? Did she do a poll or something-or, like most of your politicians, is she a complete idiot? I favour the latter.
    Dear god but you guys do have a serious issue with the representatives you choose. So what is it that swings it for you folk; the smile or the haircut? It can't be intellect or political acumen judging by the woeful parade of hopeless inadequates you keep showing us...
     
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    Read what she said and I quote from OP's link:

    "What people recognize is that there's a fear that the United States is in an unstoppable decline. They see the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of the Soviet Union and our loss militarily going forward," Bachmann said on Jay Sekulow's radio show."

    Looks to me she fears of the US decline above anything else, and the Soviet Union is not singled out, as OP would want us to believe. Why was OP not able to properly read and comprehend the article he so eagerly made into a post? Look at the video

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0WwC9OcOI"]IQ Test: Obama Supporters - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Russia is rising, but it's ironically in the form of a ruthless capitalism that is on par with our own.

    We're not quite as oligopolistic as they are, but we're getting there.

    However, Russia seems a lot smarter about implementing market safeguards. They have several policies in place to guard their financial sector from the volatility that we experience.
     

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