teacher suspended for non-liberal opinion about same sex marriage

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  1. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    That would be interseting if he did say something. I wouldn't think so though.

    You know, I haven't seen many anti-gay marriage remarks on PF, you got one?
     
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    Heterosexism is not racism, but it's still heterosexism. LGBT is a culture in and of itself, so every time you slander against it there can and will be overtones of racism and ethnocentrism in your voice. All the same, your comments are not something I would fire you for if I were your employer. As long as you did your job well I wouldn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    No. I wasn't referring to a particular remark but remarks in general.
     
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    I think he should be investigated because he said something that might be considered bigotry, and he's a teacher. He has to accept all the students he gets in. This action may influence that ability. You can't yell fire in a movie theater.

    So what? I got the majority of the american people. What do you have? The Past. What do I have? I got, potentially the future. The way things are going.
     
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    I see what you mean, it could be worse. But it's changing. 100 years ago, people didn't even know homosexuality didn't even exist. We've come far.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48bJYbmWM4"]Gay Marriage Battle Is Lost - Christian Right Leader - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    If the school has a written policy on a code of special ethics and if he signed it, then he is bound by it and if he's violated it, then the school has a right to attempt to terminate his employment. If he's represented by a union, then they'll try to save his job; if he's non-union, then he is as good as gone. He'd have to go to court to sue to get his job back.
     
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    you shouldnt have to sue anyone for anything as long as you werent being biased on your job. but liberals want you to have a liberally biased mindset and any other opinion is wrong to them.

    this is pretty much the huge reason i hate liberals, you are free to speak and not be harmed as long as its liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Like cops and firefighters, teacher are never really "off duty" in the sense. They are held to higher standards then the average employee and as such are held accountable for what they do outside of the workplace.
     
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    i can understand this if someone of these professions was breaking the law, but speaking your opinion is not illegal, its actually one of the great things about this country. but now liberal jackasses will make you lose your job over it.
     
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    Baloney. I was a police officer for thirty years. No one ever told me I could or couldn't think or say what I wanted off duty. I had to make it quite explicit that I was making a personal comment and not representing the department if I spoke out in a way that would irritate the politicians but that was all.

    When we hired gay officers we were very explicit about what they could and couldn't do and again we never said they couldn't think or say what they wanted as private individuals.

    Exactly the same goes for officers who were active in the pro-life movement.

    In my opinion, this is liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Rule of thumb is, if you don't like what the policies are, don't sign off on them or don't take the job.

    I turned down a job many years ago because I didn't like the restrictions they put on what i could do and not do at work of off duty.
     
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    I don't agree with what he said but I don't think losing his job is appropriate....

    If it was hostile or hateful maybe, but narrow minded shouldn't get you fired
     
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    I support gay marriage but why is it being drawn into the classroom , It doesn't belong there
     
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    Well, Ideally if he is union, they'll arbitratate his case; I'm not sure what the civil service laws say in Florida, but as for now, he's still on the payroll although on modified duty. I haven't read what exactly he allegedly wrote, but if it were an opinion that wasn't laced with profanities and or threats, then termination is not just cause for what he may have done.

    If he's non-union, then who knows what will happen.
     
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    I think homosexuals are taking the long view of the issue.

    Even if it takes 20 years to proselytize children to accept homosexuality as normal that's what they will do.
     
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    liberal fascism on the rise. Don't these people get it. You cannot express your personal opinion. When it comes to the Statist's only there opinion matters and if you don't agree with them...look out!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Of course....LMFAO!!!!!
     
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    You really are beyond clueless. Bigotry is something everyone is guilty of. You cannot regulate it.

    If you are intolerant of those who have a religious issue with homosexuality you are a bigot.

    You want to celebrate your own bigotry by regulating free speech.

    You support fascism and burning the first Amendment.

    Are you really this slow? You have one poll. One.

    I have ACTUAL VOTES. 33 of them in numbers FAR exceeding your poll. You have no votes supporting you in a majority. Who has the upper hand here? Think before responding this time.
     
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    Because children at young as kindergarten need to be exposed to every depravity known to mankind in order to indoctrinate them into the statist society.
     
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    Another supporter of religious bigotry and the trashing of the first Amendment.

    I smell another liberal.
     
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    Exactly right. And they will embrace whatever bigotry and fascism they can to achieve that goal.
     
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    While I read the posts he made, and they are asinine, that does not excuse suspending him. While I totally disagree with his sentiments, I think he should be free to express his opinions. However, I know free speech protection only protects one from government reprisal, and that an employer CAN fire some one for the things they say, even if they say those things on their own personal time.


    PS. I am very liberal, but the best teacher I had in high school was a fire breathing radical Republican government teacher. However he was too old to be into the facebook thing, otherwise I could absolutely imagine him making this sort of comment. It just so happens that politics and the ability to be a good teacher, don't seem to be linked.
     
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    So this teacher should have the right to CHOOSE to be religious, but a gay person can CHOOSE who they want to marry? How does that work? How does something being a choice mean it is therefore OK to discriminate? That is just nonsense.
     
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    What he wrote, some may find disturbing, but since voicing a personal opinion, and not bringing this opinion into the classroom, the man didn't do anything illegal.
    Lets just hope the teachers union is still good for something.
     
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    I disagree with what he said also, but also disagree with the consequences. I obviously have no idea what his contract says, but hopefully he will maintain his job.

    One more reason facebook is stupid...
     
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