Asking kids to choose 5 books from a list of 60/75 to read is "forcing" it upon them? All the parents had to do was review the list, cross off the ones they didn't want their kids to read and let them choose from the others. Or did the right wing parents think their kids were being required to read all 60/75 books over the summer - thereby "forcing" them to read the books they disapproved of?
was there any disclaimer that there were mentions of gay orgies and sex? If not, then how is a parent to know? Or, do you say that parents should read the books first? More liberal BS because if it's about gay sex then it's OK. If the books denounced gay sex then I'm sure you'd be up in arms.
Book banning eh far left? So if schools won't allow kids to read Hustler magazine in class, then they're "banning books" by your definition?
Anna, one question. Are you ok with books that include pedophilia being given as reading for middle school kids?
I'll answer the question for her: They took Nabokov's "Lolita" off the reading list years ago as memory serves.. Look back at the OP, do you see anything here that begs a closer look? Look again at what the superintendent said: Translation: "Please gay perverts, don't gang up and get me fired with thousands of letters of protest....ppp...ppllease let me keep my job???" The fear, the palpable fear! Suppose he's cowering in the wake of what just happened to the award-winning teacher for DARING to state his views on the controversial [two or more sides to a controversy folks] topic of gay marraige? Egads! He DARED to voice an opinion in opposition!!! See how they cower? See how the APA cowered back in early '70s: From The Rainbow History Project's "Zapping the Shrinks" When will we fight back against the gay gestapo? They weren't removed legitimately from the DSM, they held science hostage to remove themselves. After all, you can't make inroads into the schools if you're clinically diagnosed as mentally ill...
Answer the question. Don't duck it. So you would be happy if a book was on that list that taught homosexuality is wrong?
Since you're obviously no longer interested in defending your pwned OP (can't blame you there), let's talk about pedophilia (which you seem to be very interested in talking about, given the half dozen or so times you've challenged others about it in this thread alone): What is it? Can you define it for us? If not, how can you ask someone's opinion of it if you refuse to define it? Now yes, I could look it up in the dictionary, but I'm going to bet that you are not going to use the dictionary definition, or at least not the proper medical/psychological definition. So... put up? Or, continue asking the same stupid pointless off-topic undefined question? Which is it going to be? .
Ladies and gentlemen we have the perfect liberal mindset. They can't even define what a pedo is out of fear of offending someone.
Pedophilia is sex with underaged minors as the majority of the voting people in the various States have defined. They define the age because as a group they decide at what age a child is both physically AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY old enough to handle sex with other adults. That's called a democracy-rule. You may have heard of it. We determine what behaviors are acceptable and when. We define pedophilia, not Websters.
Your question is based upon the premise that books on the list are teaching that homosexuality is right. Where is your evidence or proof of this? Do you have any other strawmen you'd like to introduce to us?
I don't have to put anything up. If someone doesn't know what pedophilia is, than they should not be here in this thread nor in this forum. stop trolling. you can't answer the question, so I am asking others. move along.
Here's what Wiki has to say... As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (or paedophilia) is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary). The child must be at least five years younger in the case of adolescent pedophiles (16 or older) to be termed pedophilia.[1][2][3][4] The term has a range of definitions, as found in psychiatry, psychology, the vernacular, and law enforcement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
its a moronic strawman, the question isnt remotely comparable to what we are talking about. Novels dont normally "teach" anything specifically....its often left up for personal interpretation.
When you say "books on pedophilia", are you talking about books that present the molestation of a child as a good thing - "promoting it" as you would say - making a child who reads it believe that being molested is something to look forward to? Or are you talking about a book about a child who has been molested and the mental and physical toll taken on a child's life as a result - a book that might help children RECOGNIZE pedophilia and know if they're being abused and what to do about it? Middle school kids and younger are the most likely victims of pedophilia. Are you against them being aware that it can happen and how to protect themselves or what to do if it does happen to them? Have you read these books and can you tell me how pedophilia is presented in them? I haven't and it's impossible to answer your question without knowing what I'm talking about.
Can you tell me which books on that list introduce sexually explicit and titillating materials to minors? From your statements, I'm assuming you've read them. Do you have the books or were you able to access them on line? Also - can you show me where Sparks argued in favor of introducing sexually explicit and titillating materials to minors? It takes so long to re-read the whole thread and I obviously missed it somewhere. Thanks.
That is, of course, incorrect as it is overly broad in at least two dimensions. And I suspect that, based upon your supplied bloviation instead of a supplied source, you know that it is wrong. Disturbing Newspeak, ladies and gents -- the right changes the meaning of words to suit their fatally flawed arguments.
since the book contains pedophilia... it means that it teaches homosexuality is ok? thats moronic on more levels than you normally achieve
if Hustler was given to the girls then it would be OK. If Hustler was given to the boys then that would be heterosexual so it's not OK.
When you ask a straightforward question, I'll be more than happy to answer it. Some books about pedophilia might talk about the causes, manifestation and treatment of pedophiles. Some might help children understand pedophilia and how to recognize and avoid it - or how to get help if it happens to them. I would likely be in favor of children being given this information but without knowing the specifics of the books you're talking about, I can't say. YOU seem to be suggesting that the books on this list ENCOURAGE pedophilia and present it as a good thing to young children - encouraging them to find an older person to molest them? I would certainly NOT be in favor of that. So as I said, if you want a straight forward answer, give me a straight forward question with enough specifics to know what you're talking about. Your question is the same as asking me if I approve of children being given medicine at school without specifying whether it's an antibiotic for a cold that they need to take every 4 hours or some harmful substance that they have no business taking at all.