Liberals at Indiana College Bans "Too Violent" National Anthem

Goshen College, (also known as Goshen or GC) is a private Mennonite liberal arts college in Goshen, Indiana,

it is a private school , it can do what it wants

 

War brings peace, piece brings war. This has nothing to do with war.

This thread is nothing more than a conservative attempt at bashing liberals and the conservative making anti-American stance of liberals.

 

I would not argue with that other than add to it.......as long as nobody got hurt.

If you attend a Christian college you best be prepared to take a few Bible courses. If you attend this school then you must expect them to follow their beliefs. With a student population of 1k I can't imagine what sport they are playing? Perhaps baseball????

I tell you. If you live anywhere near a community you need to buy some pies. The apple pies are awesome but the coconut cream.............to die for

 

helloooooooooo

please go back and read some posts. There are conservatives within the thread who contradict your statement

 

Since the National Anthem is the symbol of our nation, Goshen College should give back that pile of stimulus money they have taken. If not they are complete hypocrites.

http://www.recovery.gov/espsearch/Pages/default.aspx?k=Goshen+College

 

So you believe all of the religious teachings followed by these people? No?

So knowing what they believe doesn't make it right, , does it??

Closing their eyes to the history of our nation will not help them survive will it?

Men and women have laid down their lives to keep our flag flying and to keep these fools free. They could at least so some respect for the truth.

 

The worst assumption liberals make is believing that Fundamentalist Muslims share our moral values.

Conservatives make the same mistake….about Liberals

Text,

When a conservative realizes the truth of what you have written the heart grows very hard.

 

Mennonites aren't liberal by a long shot. They are very much into traditional family values. But they are pacifists to the extreme. They do not even believe in self defense, because they take literally Jesus' teaching to "turn the other cheek." We need to respect their beliefs and leave them alone. They are no threat to the rest of us.

 

True. And I support the private college living according to what this denomination believes.

So extreme pacifism is now real Christianity? Or perhaps it is just bad theology practiced by a sect.

 

Where exactly was Jesus's command to turn the other cheek conditional?

 

Pure partisan drivel. Not even Conservative lunacy, because no real Conservative would make such an idiotic claim.

You didn't even bother to read about the Menonites before denouncing them as liberals.

You just ASSUMED they were liberals because they banned something.

Because of their religious beliefs.

So is acting on ones religious beliefs a particularly liberal act nowadays?

I have tremendous respect for those who really live their lives according to their professed religious beliefs- and that includes my evangelical friends who live their lives filled full of Christ and love, and according to Christ's teachings.

Why would I not also respect the Mennonites living their lives according to their understanding of the teachings of Christ?

 

Evidence that the Mennonites are conservatives? What planet did you say you were from?

http://www.mennoniteusa.org/

 

Liberals don't make that mistake.

Islam is a conservative right-wing ideology.

 

Jesus understood there were times when the sword is necessary:

"But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." -Jesus


Jesus was obviously not a Mennonite.

So I assume you believe Obama is a total phony because he calls himself a Christian and started a war with Libya?

 

The Catholic church espouses a pretty staunchly anti war/pacifist stance on most issues involving the subject... it's just most Catholics only listen to what they like from the churches teachings.

 

I believe in all religious teachings in so much as I acknowledge the teachings existence.

In questions regarding religion there is rarely a right or wrong, at least not with certainty until passing beyond the mortal coil.

Religious freedom and tolerance were/are a HUGE part of this nations history, perhaps we can all use a little Visine concerning this nations history?

There has not been a external conflict in nearly 200 years where American freedom was directly threatened.

 

Boy this thread failed quickly. Your single post exposed it as flaming.

 

Uh, Jesus was being metaphorical here. You've made the exact mistake of the Apostles, who took him literally and produced a sword. Then Jesus sighs at their foolishness and says: "that'll do."

Heavens you literalists are really funny.

Luke 22: "But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me, 'And he was reckoned with transgressors'; for what is written about me has its fulfilment." 38 And they said, "Look, Lord, here are two swords." And he said to them, "It is enough." 39

This is the same chapter where Peter cuts off Malchus ear, and Jesus says: "No more of this", healing Malchus and giving us the famous phrase (not in Luke but the same incident in Matthew 26): "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword."

In short, no Christian commentary agrees with your silly interpretation.

 

I would say that is more true of the US Catholic bishops than of the Catholic church itself. The Catholic church itself has engaged in wars (the Crusades) so they are not a pacifist group.

 

True... but I am referring to more recent times in my lifetime the Pope is always giving grief about nations at war.

 

Mennonites are not liberals. They are a religious group similar in some ways to the Amish. They are generally farmers who unlike the Amish do use modern equipment. Their cars are generally black so as not to be flashy. The women wear bonnets, and long dresses.

They are a somewhat closed society but not to the extent of the Amish. There were many Mennonite farmers near my grand father's farm in Southern Illinois. They are good people, good neighbors, hard workers. They are peace loving people who mind their own business. They don't generally participate in politics much, except within their own community.

If the Mennonites made a decision to not play the anthem at their University I'm certain it was a decision made out of concience, not a liberal political statement.

 

they're Amish-lite. they will drive cars and use telephones, but a smart phone or a corvette is still out of bounds.

 

They produced two swords and he said that was sufficient. He did not suggest in any way they were being foolish. You are just making crap up to bolster your foolish theology.

"38And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."

If they were a pacifist group then why were they carrying swords? If they were a pacifist group then why is Jesus telling them to buy swords instead of telling them to get rid of the ones they are already carrying?

I notice how you ducked my question on Obama. He calls himself a Christian and started a war with Libya. So is Obama a phony for calling himself a Christian or are you once again being disingenuous and applying your partisanship when spewing your insults? Your righteous standards don't apply to liberals.

 

Yes I agree, the current Pope is more in line with an anti-war line of reasoning. Different Popes through the ages appear to have varying thoughts on this subject.

 

Some Amish have phones themselves and even have Facebook accounts. That was a surprise to me. They aren't quite as sheltered as most people think.