Obama's Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a ‘Right to a Legal Wage’

My job could easily be taken my an American too. It's called the labor market. You either compete or you lose your job. That doesn't change just because Mexicans are involved. But it does make it harder to compete when racist laws are creating an underground labor market where people can work for less than minimum wage. Immigration laws are the reason Americans are losing jobs to Mexicans. Not Mexicans themselves.

 

Migrant workers... NOT illegals.

 

The OP said Illegal. Even if he was being dishonest about the position of the person he was "quoting" I am stating my opinion on illegals. That opinion being there shouldn't be any. It shouldn't be illegal to work in this country. I would think conservatives would understand the value of fair competition in the labor force more than anyone.

 

We can't keep importing impoverished 3rd world'ers and expect to remain a world super power. "Uneducated nonenglish speaking immigrants" as you call them, take more from a society than they contribute. The immigrants that we took from Europe back in the day were much, much more capable than the typical Home Depot day laborer that we have on every street corner these days.

We need to make it easier and cheaper for employers to hire American workers, not lower the standards to accommodate foreigners who are willingly breaking the law. That should be the disqualifying criminal record, right there. If they are willing to flagrantly break that law, what other laws are they going to break?

 

No, failure to uphold those immigration laws are the reason Americans are losing jobs to Mexicans. If we deported every illegal that illegally crossed the border, they wouldn't be here to steal jobs. Tolerating their illegal'ness is why they are still here.

 

It isn't illegal to work in America. Hadn't you heard?

Every nation in the world (even the ones filled with non white people) have immigration laws. You seem to know nothing.

I'll wager anything you are a huge supporter of unions and you think the Wisconsin situation is tragic (because unions there are under the gun).
Odd then that you see nothing wrong with illegals flooding the nation and taking away good paying union jobs by undercutting union wages and benefits. You should see how the building trades in California have been all but wiped out.
But then you don't seem to care. Every man for himself...right?

Tell the local workers in Louisiana that after they were undercut trying to rebuild New Orleans after Katrina. You live in a Bizarro alternate reality and I hope your job is taken by an illegal real soon (assuming you have one, which seems unlikely).

 

It's illegal for them to even be here in the country.

Mexico imprisons their illegals. As does most other countries. Few countries wish to be openly invaded.

 

The PJ Tattler???? When even Fox News isn't reporting it, I find it highly doubtful there is even a shred of truth in it.

 

Maybe we should keep you from being hired. I'm sure you've gotten a speeding ticket in your life. If you break that law how many other laws are you willing to break?!

Give me a break. Why are you so anti competition? If these people are as degenerate as you say then they wouldn't be able to get a job at fair wages. So what do you have to worry about?

Not to mention we have deported plenty of very qualified people. College grads. Scientists. Engineers. People willing to fight in our military. For what? because they were born somewhere else? Who cares! They are bringing value to our country. Legal or not they belong here.

Competition is a good thing. It allows for the best to rise up.

 

It's only illegal to work here if you do so illegally.

You can't reduce immigration laws to racism. Immigration laws are to be used equally, it just so happens that the majority of our illegal immigrants come from south of the border.

Or... if unemployment is high and the economy is toast... or if your president is unabashedly pandering to a specific demographic and aiding them in breaking our laws...

And those employers should pay the price for their hand in all of this.

So if they were granted amnesty, they'd no longer accept lower wages?

 

do You Know The Difference Between An Illegal Immigrant And A Migrant Worker?

 

Who says illegals are all "hispanic/latino?" Who's the racist? Hmmm. Or were you including white Russians and white middle eastern illegal immigrants as well? But how could anyone be racist when illegals include white people as well? Oh wait! It's because YOU'RE THE RACIST!! Now I get it......

Immigration laws are made because we don't need millions of unskilled, uneducated workers flooding the US. We have more than enough Americans that can fit that bill and work. Also BILLIONS of US dollars leave the US because of illegal immigration yearly. This doesn't help an already hurting US economy.

 

Your position is that illegals with criminal records should be kept out. My response to that is that they would have criminal records if we enforced our own immigration laws.

There are plenty of people in the US for a healthy level of competition. We don't need every 3rd world'er who is willing to hop a fence.

If those "very qualified people" want to live in the US, let them follow the proper and legal procedure for coming here. Hundreds of thousands of people are willing to go through the long, hard process of becoming US citizens, and these illegals are slapping those people right in the face by simply hopping a fence and outrunning the border patrol.

We have enough criminals in this country.

 

This Isn't About Illegals, Its About Migrants.......

 

Nevermind....

 

Notice the discrepancy between the headline and the text.

Its PajamaMedia, for God's sake

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) in the face of every immigrant that did it legally.......(*)(*)(*)(*) all over a nation of laws........

.......how do you libs manage to call yourselves Americans......
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And my response is that there are some laws that it's understandable that we break. If I'm in a country where drug lords have corrupted the police and I can't find any work except for working for the cartel am I going to give 2 (*)(*)(*)(*)s about a stupid immigration law? (*)(*)(*)(*) no! I'd hop that fence and sprint to the nearest home depot!

There is no such thing as too much competition. And anyone that can't get a skilled position is more than welcome as another lower class consumer. Wal-mart and McDonald's favorite customers.

People don't have time to wait. It can take up to 6 years before you can legally move to the US. Would you risk 6 years of living in a cartel controlled city? Or would you take a risk with the border patrol who in the worst case would just send you back for you to try again. I know what I'd do! I'd hop the fence as many times as it took!

 

I sympathize with the worker. Period. Not the American worker. Not the Mexican worker. I sympathize with the worker. I could give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s about Unions on this issue. Just because I support some issues unions support does not mean my nose is connected to Union ass. I am my own person. And I fail to see how that makes me a hypocrite.

 

Uh, no. The employers who have been hiring illegal aliens have been breaking the law, and since there's not going to be any accountability on that front, the responsible thing to do is to don't get dragged ke sure wages dragged down by these idiot employers who will frame the local labor market.

So, think first!! Then say something.

 

The problem though is that the U.S. is a sovereign nation, as is Mexico. We don't share citizenship, we don't share rights interchangeably. Mexico has it's own set of immigration laws... which it enforces... just as we try to enforce ours. We are two separate nations, two separate cultures.

Neither Mexico nor the U.S. has any obligation to take on the others citizens... especially at cost to the host nation, and especially when the host nation is already having serious economic problems.

It is not fair to U.S. citizens to have to compete with people (for employment, social services, education) from another country who came here illegally.

We should be taking care of our own way before thinking of others.

Their legality wouldn't make a difference, they'll maintain the same types of jobs for generations to come.

Well, what else can they do? They would keep the jobs they have, because they have no other option.