Obama's Labor Secretary: Illegal Aliens Have a ‘Right to a Legal Wage’

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  1. Jet57

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    Uh, no. The employers who have been hiring illegal aliens have been breaking the law, and since there's not going to be any accountability on that front, the responsible thing to do is to see to it make sure wages don't get dragged down by these idiot employers who will frame the local labor market.

    So, think first!! Then say something.
     
  2. Badmutha

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    Please heed your own advice..........

    .........YOU LIVE IN A SANCTUARY CITY............
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    .......who is breaking the law again?
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  3. RichT2705

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    Sure they do.....in whatever country they belong in. Here in America they have a right to nothing.
     
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    When a nation is under the rule of law your argument is irrelevant.
     
  5. RomanTimes

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    Dont have to follow labor laws? Eh, let me tell you as an employer I follow all labor laws. I do not hire illegals. If you choose not to follow labor laws, well good luck when you get caught... The feds will have a fun time taking everything you own.
     
  6. Kranes56

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    I have to sort of agree with you.

    My question is, if we made sure that every single worker, illegal or not was getting paid miunim wage, wouldn't that help influence employers to not go illegal? And instead hire American workers?
     
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    Laws are just, like, guidelines, man! Liberal ideology is far more important that obeying silly things like laws!
     
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    You learn real fast not to mess with the Federal Government. The IRS froze a friend of mines bank account over $96.00 worth of penalties he had accumulated over the course of six months by paying his wage withholding late by 1 day per period(6 periods).... Scared him really bad, and me to!
     
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    Thats about on par with telling a woman who dresses sexy she should expect to be raped.


    Where in God's name did you loose personal responsibility for these ILLEGAL aliens breaking LAW to come here?
     
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    If companies are forced to give everyone the legal wage then there is no real benefit to hiring illegals over americans... seems like this could even things out a bit.
     
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    Seems like this could turn the infestation into an all out invasion........

    "If Employers Give Illegals More Money, this will deter Illegal Immigrantion"

    Democrat Insanity has reached new heights..........
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    Question. How would that work out?
     
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    Absolutely it would. There would be no incentive to hire illegal workers.
     
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    And I have another question. If we raise it, and employers still hire illegals, wouldn't there simply be two agnecies hounding you now? Illegal immigration, and workers rights groups for instance? Seems to me, hiring equal american workers would save time, and money.
     
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    It is benefitial to both American businesses and American workers to allow anyone who wants to work to work here legally. American workers benefit because they're jobs are already being taken by people who are not only willing but because of their situation are forced to take less than minimum wage for labor. People who are impossible to compete with.

    And it benefits business because it increases the labor competition pool. There are a significant number of Mexican immigrants who can compete with Americans. Even in skilled college degree positions. Why shouldn't a business be able to hire the best person for the job?
     
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    Sure there would......one hard working illegal is worth 5 lazy liberal slobs.

    But you dont care about unemployed American Citizens........so I guess it doesnt matter.
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    It's not that I don't care. It's that I don't see what the difference is between an unemployed American citizen and an unemployed Mexican citizen. They both need work. And competition only makes us stronger. Why are you anti competition?
     
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    Conservatives want small government. Except when it comes to keeping minorities in poverty.
     
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    Right.

    I guess I can see it working your way. My probelm is, most illegal immigrants aren't going to have college degrees, so they won't be qualified for those college degree postions.
     
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    They "deserve" a one way ride back to where they came from. I don't care how long they've been here. They knew the risks and took the chance anyway.
     
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    Trust me, if you hire illegals you do so at you own peril. Also, the language barrier is fairly significant. This is something you would appreciate if you had to try and work around them in the field all the time. We also experienced the same thing with a couple of guys from the Balkans.

    Ironworker - 'I need you to stay out of my erection zone.'

    Illegal - ' No habla'

    Ironworker - 'You could have a bolt, spud wrench, sleever bar, etc.. fall on you, stay out of the area, we have red danger tape up. Red means stop and do not enter, yet here you are.'

    Illegal - 'No habla'

    At this point hat size 4, neck size 40 takes over and grabs the feller and escorts him out of the zone. Their inability to communicate effectively makes the work place that much more dangerous.
     
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    Government welfare and entitlement programs are the #1 cause of poverty in minority communities, so there is more blood on the hands of liberals than conservatives.

    Liberals do it on purpose, of course. They have a voting base that cannot survive without Government assistance, so what is the likelihood of those people voting against increasing the size of Government? Virtually nonexistent.
     
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    I think John Lennon should have included a disclaimer when he wrote "Imagine". Maybe something like "This is a song I wrote, don't take it too seriously."

    Although, Lennon was a real leftist nut for most of his life. Apparently the terrible Carter administration, followed by the awesome Reagan Presidency turned him into a closet Republican, though. So there's hope for everyone.
     
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    The American citizen didn't commit one or more of the following felonies to get a job.

    Will these laws be enforced? In order for an illegal to hold a regular job they had to have broken one or more of the Laws above, will they be prosecuted? If not will American citizens punished for breaking any of the laws above be granted clemency and be paid reparations?
     
  25. TheTaoOfBill

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    True. But we have plenty of room for unskilled workers. It might not seem like it because of this economy. But we will recover eventually. And eventually we will need unskilled labor. And once they're working they become additional consumers to businesses. Which is also a benefit.
     

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