Why are you offended by Racial Separatists?

This thread is not about whether racial separatism is good or bad; if you want to discuss that, you can go to the "race relations" part of the forum. This thread is about why people are so offended at the mere discussion of racial separatism, and what your opinions are about the media intentionally trying to suppress it. Being specific, the meaning of "racial separatist" in this thread specifically refers to people who try to promote their own percieved race/ethnicity living apart from the other different races/ethnicities, either physically, economically, and/or politically.

Obviously there are arguments that can be made both ways, but this thread is not intended to be about whether or not racial separatism should be promoted. Please keep this discussion about why you, or why you think others, often get so offended by racial separatists trying to spread their ideology. Many institutions and local governments have attempted to use legal means to suppress or prosecute racial separatists, either through "hate speech codes", discriminatory application of "littering" ordinances, or denying assembly permits in the parks or streets.

Do white separists have the same rights as any other political group?
Should the promotion of white separatist beliefs be regulated to avoid vulnerable children or minority groups who may be offended from being exposed to the literature and ideas?
Why are racial separatist beliefs so offensive to many people? It is almost as if the mainstream televission and newspapers are depicting white separatists as evil people, who promote violence and seek to oppress other minorities. Is this a fair assessment, or is the media promoting its own biased agenda?

Share your opinions, and please try to keep this discussion respectful.

 

Where do separatists GO?

Where do they live, go to school ... Where do they shop .. which restaurants to the go to?

 

Why can't white seperatists go and live on the moon?

 

They try to go to areas, neighborhoods, regions, and places of employment where most of the people are of their same race. Particularly, many whites in the USA are moving to the Northwest because they percieve there to be more opportunity and few minorities there.

But the American population is rapidly becoming more diverse, and it is becoming harder and harder for racial separatists (of any race) to isolate themselves from the other races. That is one of the reasons they are trying to use political means to secure a racially homogenous region for themselves.
Some separatists just want the government to stop forcing integration, and stop with the educational/housing policies which are designed to promote integration.

 

Lots of Chinese and Arab immigrants in the Norhtwest.

What region do you have in mind? Who's land will you demand? Is it outside the US?

 

You are what you hate though. The reason why we have problems is because of a separatist attitude from minorities----egged on by liberal whites..

Vermont might be a good place for you at this point. I think its like 99% white.

 

Blacks are separatists. They are the least likely of any other group to hang around with members outside of their race (unless it's a black guy hanging out with a white girl, but we all know what that's about). Nobody faults blacks for choosing to stick with their own. The same goes for latinos. Whites are the only ones who are forced to feel shame for preferring the company of other whites. Whites are the only ones who feel pressure to hang out with other races simply to prove how "tolerant" and "unracist" they are.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315078/Race-maps-America.html

 

Im not offended by racial separatists, Im offended by their arguments for racial separation which are exclusively based on psuedo science and straight out lies. You want to be separated, go for it but dont insult normal peoples intelligence by pretending it is based on anything more than an abnormal fear of other cultures or skin colour.

 

Hey, if someone wants to only hang out with people that share their skin color, by all means go for it. I think it's detrimental to society to divide people like this, but I won't stop them.

 

What about the majority of people that simply feel more comfortable with their own cultural group? Why are whites not allowed to feel that way, when every other race encourages it?

 

I'm not offended either, I can understand it even.

You won't find too many nations with more diversity than the U.S. There are places in the world where there is in fact more diversity, but few where it's so obvious. For the most part, distinct groups stick to their own, and there is no mystery why. There is nothing wrong with preferring your own culture over others, though some will try their (*)(*)(*)(*)edest to convince you otherwise. You don't even have to accept different cultures, but you do have to tolerate it.

 

You are very correct, Brewskier.

Are you aware the most segregated day of the week is Sunday?

This is the day black people choose to go to black churches and not white churches.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their President.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the "prince of the fools" should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President."

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You may have noticed that the only groups of people who get offended at the thought of racial separatism are liberal white elites and liberal blacks. Liberal white elites don't think that the black man can make it on his own so they provide them with all the cradle-to-grave welfare/entitlement programs they'll ever need. And in doing so they need to have the blacks intermingle with the whites--for its the whites who are paying their way through life, so they'll need to be a mutual living arrangement for the two races. Also, liberals and their black lackeys also need the two races to cohabitate so that racial unrest and liberal political race baiting stays front and center on the minds of everyone.

 

Personally, it is offensive when the Racial separatist insists on being allowed to use the same restroom and eat in the same restaurant as we multiculturalists do. It seems somehow, hypocritical for the separatist to wish to mingle with non separatists.

However, since we multiculturalists do not wish to appear to be hypocritical either, we must allow the bigots to violate their own code of bigotry and use the multicultural restrooms and restaurants, for the sake of civility.

 

Dear moderator: Will any of Dogus Slopius posts ever be visible? Certainly, none of what has been posted so far is any worse that what is already visible?

Ah, yes, it is apparent that at least to me, the post is now visible.

Therefore, let me restate my previous unvisible post: Are White people and Black people in the USA equal? No, of course not, because the white people enjoy a much greater population, outnumbering black people by 3:1 or better. Thus, the number of stupid white people is 3:1 also. For the Black community to catch up with the number of stupid white people, the black community would first have to make sure that the ENTIRE 12 million black people are stupid, and then also have to look for another 12 million black people to immigrate to the USA, just to even approach a meaningful equality in terms of numbers of stupid white people in this great country.

Please note: Dogus Slopius is replacing SkullKrusher,and Grumpydog, but is otherwise, the same Dog riding a skateboard.

And to further illustrate the clear superiority of stupidity that white people have over their fellow black american citizens, I , being a caucasian dog,do hereby acknowledge that this post belongs in the thread :Are White people and Black people Equal? rather than in this thread about Racial Separatists, although IMO, both threads are equally nonsensical.

 

Do you know where Catch went?

 

Maybe the Central Commitee for Communist Capitalist Reformers has recalled Catch for "Reeducation" and Labor Camp.

 

Too bad.

 

Yes. I suppose.

No. I suppose.

They've added vast evil to the world, and they're stupid. And inherently rude to lots of people.

The media may have a bias. I agree with that bias, personally. But yes, I think that depiction is fair. Separatists are stupid at best and evil at worst.

The most respectful I can be on this topic is honesty. I think very little of white separatists, or separatists of any color. It's a stupid idea that has caused great harm to many human beings and I think we should have all outgrown it by now.

 

You said that, I didn't.

I think you're wrong, anyway. Most conservatives are smart enough to know that racism is stupid. And won't even quibble about whether or not separatism is racism, like you're about to.

 

The problem, to me at least, is that separatism seems to get confused with racism. The truth is, most of us are separatists in our own ways. Most "races" tend to stick to their own kind because they feel more comfortable within their own culture. Of course there are many exceptions, but whites, blacks, latinos, muslims, asians, jews,etc largely tend to date/marry someone within their race/culture and live in areas that are filled predominantly with their own kind. This is not unique to America, it happens all over the world in western societies that have large numbers of immigrants. And it extends far beyond race. People also share social and economic circles with people on their own level. The wealthy certainly don't choose to live in poor suburbs, do they? Criminals associate with other criminals. It's completely natural to prefer the company of your own kind, whether it be racial, cultural or economic circumstances.
I am sure there are many separatists that wish to remain that way because they view other races as inferior, but I see that as racism rather than a natural desire for separatism and I think that is the cause of much of the denigration and hostility in the media/elite toward separatism. But the ironic part is that I can guarantee the overwhelming majority of those very same elites that are pushing for integration in society do not practice it themselves. Simply look at the race of their spouse or their address for confirmation.
But the truth is it goes far beyond race. Culture is a much stronger tie. The average Englishman looks at the world in a different way to the average Italian, despite both being caucasian. Same goes with Chinese and Japanese, despite both being Asian. And for the ultimate example, simply examine the attitudes of jews and palestinians, though they are both semetic peoples. I think culture and language (which is an aspect of culture) binds people much more closely than race, and having people of the same culture is the key to a successful and homogenous society. THAT is what separatism should be about. And it is why multiculturalism will ultimately fail and should not be promoted. It does not unite, it divides, and cannot be overcome. Europe is finally waking up and abandoning multicultural policies at the political level, policies that were never really accepted by the people, but which were actively encouraged by the Left.
Sorry for going off topic a bit.

 

Ive never heard of any law preventing a person "feeling" however they want.

 

How many black and latinos do you hang out with?

 

Let me answer that question....I don't hang out with 'ANY' blacks or latinos. Surprise, eh? Yeah, just call me a separatist who will never be accused of creating racial tension in my all lily WHITE gated community.