The Latest ATTACK on Small Business...This is horrendous!

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by kk8, Sep 4, 2011.

  1. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,274
    Likes Received:
    455
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Then you will rightfully go out of business. I bet you and your son are angry that you even have to pay your workers. Oh wait landscaping you say? How many illegal mexicans do you employ?
     
  2. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    7,924
    Likes Received:
    143
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    They can close and relocate to a less union-friendly state or country. They can fire all workers and re-hire or make it a family business. They can close the branch that was trying to unionize and expand the branches that didn't.

    Unfortunately the union protection laws limit how much warning the businesses can give workers about such choices, so the workers are often surprised when they are suddenly laid off.
     
  3. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    25,361
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nothing would stop a company under assault from union extortionists from shutting down and moving the whole shooting match to a more business friendly environment.

    The bane of leftism...liberty to escape their bull(*)(*)(*)(*)....

    Keep electing the mother(*)(*)(*)(*)ers, mother (*)(*)(*)(*)ers....

    and that too will be gone.
     
  4. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,274
    Likes Received:
    455
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Maybe in fantasy land. Your delusional that all business' are simply able to just up and leave is laughable. Most will stay right where they are because they cannot afford to move or are just unable to move. Another win for WORKERS!
     
  5. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    24,800
    Likes Received:
    318
    Trophy Points:
    0
    VDH set up the situation better than anyone:

     
  6. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010
    Messages:
    7,924
    Likes Received:
    143
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Some do, some don't. Some just let the workers unionize while they bide their time and prepare to relocate.

    One business in particular that I remember - a small grocery store chain - did exactly what submarinepainter described. The workers decided to unionize, so they fired everyone and brought in every estranged family member they could find to take over operations until they could gradually hire new staff.

    Winchester allowed the Illinois branch to unionize while the Mississippi branch didn't. Then when the Illinois branch started to cost too much money they shut it down and moved all operations to Mississippi.

    Only businesses that are very large or require specific locations are trapped. Others can find ways to move.
     
  7. Jet57

    Jet57 Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2010
    Messages:
    3,194
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    38
    So, I don't see how this is a problem for any business. Unless that business is in teh habit of some sort of wrong doing. If you're threatened by this, it doesn't say a lot about the relationship that you have with your employees.

    A notice like this automatically short circuts and heavy handed attitudes by dishonest employers. What this is, is a move that can add a lot of security to people who daily work with managers and or companies that exibit some sort of prejudices in assigning hours, working days, layoff etc.

    Lastly, this is an excellent opportunity to offer the right-wing line: "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about" . . .
     
  8. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2010
    Messages:
    25,154
    Likes Received:
    1,107
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Can't have that...it's not part of the Collective agenda.
     
  9. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2010
    Messages:
    25,154
    Likes Received:
    1,107
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Totally agree....The reason that unions formed in the first place are no longer needed, such as horrible working conditions and hours, safety issues and child labor...we have none of those now....there is no need ever for a union.
     
  10. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2010
    Messages:
    25,154
    Likes Received:
    1,107
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This post is so ignorant, it is not even worthy of a response.
     
  11. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2010
    Messages:
    25,154
    Likes Received:
    1,107
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Fire their asses and start over...believe me there are lots of people looking for jobs.
     
  12. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    16,627
    Likes Received:
    466
    Trophy Points:
    83
    If that's "as far as you know"...you're not even off the front porch. Try venturing out into the REAL world.
     
    Rapunzel and (deleted member) like this.
  13. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    25,440
    Likes Received:
    852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Only until they take too much money, then they kill the company...
     
  14. Agent Zero

    Agent Zero New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2009
    Messages:
    15,298
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Good for the NLRB.

    The sign basically says you don't have to do the things they are given, by right, to do.

    The OP's own article answers these questions. What business is mandated to have displayed tells workers both of their rights under the law and their ability to willingly do none of those things. Thus, they are told you don't have to unionize.
     
  15. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    7,084
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Most likely they don't go broke...but what is for sure is that the worker will have no job.
     
  16. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, a $5/hr job is not too much good anymore. It would would hardly pay for the trip to and from work.

    Is the Right REALLY suggesting requiring a $1 poster is going to "bankrupt" American business?

    Pathetic. These companies deserve to go under.
     
    Bowerbird and (deleted member) like this.
  17. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18,921
    Likes Received:
    446
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well luckily you don't HAVE to. There are no legal consquences for the refusal of a business to post this union poster. You don't HAVE to post it. The police aren't going to be out arresting or fining business owners for not putting up this poster.
     
  18. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18,921
    Likes Received:
    446
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What companies? Every company in America? Because I never see you people ever bash any specific company. Just "business" in general.

    So which of the over 3000 American corporations should go under IYO?
     
  19. Someone

    Someone New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2010
    Messages:
    7,780
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Presumably the ones making $1 a year, who would be sent into bankruptcy by the requirement to post the $1 poster.
     
  20. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 14, 2010
    Messages:
    9,069
    Likes Received:
    384
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Hahaha. This is funny. 1st I would like to say that no one even thinks of unions in companies where workers are paid well and receive benefits. 2nd, the service sector simply refuses to acknowledge the individual talents of each worker. This is the only industry that should be truly scared of such legislation. Anyone can learn basic retail and fast, so any employee in retail should be weary of even stopping to read the government board. Too many people need jobs for Wal-Mart employees to even try. I would think restaurants, as very few can be good cooks even after months of training, would be the most worried. There are exceptions to every rule, and most restaurants have 3 or 4 good cooks and the rest crap because no who can do the job wants to for the pay, and the majority who think they can epic fail. One of the very few situations I have witnessed where free market isn't working. A lot of it though is even corporate restaurants are locally own, and small timers typically micromanage and are A-typical penny wise but pound foolish. My 2 cents. Won't change much, but might scare a couple more dollars my way, and to be honest, won't complain. A push to severely punish people hiring illegals would fix working poor wages more than any union legislation.
     
  21. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    7,084
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Come back when you understand what is really going on.
     
  22. Guest2

    Guest2 Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    540
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I fail to see the horrendous part.
     
  23. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    23,299
    Likes Received:
    250
    Trophy Points:
    0
    General Electric. :giggle:
     
  24. Iron River

    Iron River Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    7,082
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I have a better idea that will save the small businesses money on those signs. Barry should just declare that all workers are represented by the appropriate unions and the government can collect the union dues. Give part of the money to the union thugs - even though they won't need as many if the government is forcing unions on workers - and the rest of the money can go straight to the dems.

    No need to have so many unions. Just one big compulsory union that funds the dems. No need to strike because the NRB will be dictating work rules and benefits.

    It would be the last chain around the necks of the workers to enslave them in dependence on the government.

    Does anyone think that this move is anything more than a campaign move by the minions of Barry.
     
  25. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,598
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    0
    :-DWhether you like it or not its the company that hire the workers. He can still do enough work to support himself.
     

Share This Page