Why Most Muslims are still mad at America

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  1. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    Here is an excellent analysis of why most Muslims are still mad at America.

    "A particularly frustrating feature of the U.S. narrative, for Muslims, is that it divides Muslim society into a progressive liberal and secular sector on one hand and on the other a regressive Islamist sector that seeks to impose backward Islamic traditions. America then seeks to promote the liberal forces and to undermine the Islamist forces.

    At the same time, equally large majorities say that Sharia should be the basis of government, that all laws should be vetted by Islamic scholars to ensure they are consistent with the Koran and that Muslims should not be allowed to convert to another religion.

    At the same most Muslims want to preserve the Islamic foundations of their society and want their public life to be infused with Islamic principles. Most want Sharia to play a greater role. They want a quality of piety to pervade their culture. Integrating these aspirations with liberal ideas of democracy and freedom of religion is a decidedly difficult and perhaps impossible endeavor."

     
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    Margot Account closed, not banned

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    By now you should know this is BS.
     
  3. devilsadvocate

    devilsadvocate New Member

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    its because we are F ing with them, their nations, their business, their lives. If we left them alone I bet they would not be so hostile.

    we have no right to do what we are doing to those people, and they are tired of it.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8L2mH-kAlw"]Ron Paul: Without Hate For Islam Our Aggressive Foreign Policy Couldn't Continue - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like European feelings about Germany when I was younger, Muslim feelings about the US must, don't you think, be somewhat influenced by the fact that you keep on invading Muslim countries and killing Muslims? Supporting a racist colony that murders Muslim and Christian children can't help, either - and I suppose your constant hate-filled rantings must get reported from time to time. Funny lot, Muslims - almost human really.
     
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    Yes, because their own people don't do anything to them, right?
     
  6. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    You are very correct, devilsadvocate.

    The liberals in this group truly believe if given the opportunity, the Muslins will accept democratic principles and western values. The truth is they can't and they won't.

    We need to leave them alone. We shoud allow them to go to their mosques. If they want to sneak away from work to pray 5 times a day - fine.

    The following thoughtful discussions confirm exactly what you have said.

     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    America has not submitted to Islam therefore America is outside of Islam. This is known as the "House of War". This is all that is needed to make America a target of Islamic aggression. This is why Muslims attacked US shipping early in our history. Islam is rather cult-like in its "Nazi super-race" like superiority complex. This explains why cartoons can spur riots around the globe.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just f off out of other people's countries and nobody will give two hoots for such nutters as you. Grow up!
     
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    So, should we take our aid away too? Or no, leave that?
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just f off and everyone will be hugely better off, as well you know. What aid did you ever provide without iron strings?
     
  11. James Cessna

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    You are funny, Iolo!

    Anything the least bit critical about the people who have vowed to kill us is in your strange mind a "hate filled rant".

    When it comes to "hate filled rants", you are the world’s worst!

    And guess what!

    Your hate-filled rants against the Jewish people get reported from time to time!

    [​IMG]

    There will not be peace until the Palestinians once and for all decide they love their children a lot more than that they hate the Israelis.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have killed about a thousand times more of 'them', of course. Why do you keep doing that? Why are you paying foreigners to displace the descendants of the OT Jews and murder their children? Do you think you are Hitler, or is it still Napoleon in your institution?
     
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    you are very correct, Iolo.

    We should leave the Muslims to their own self-destructive behavior. When they are not attacking Israel, they are busy killing each other!

    These comments reinforce what you have just stated.

     
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    Do it! Go, go go!
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your typical right-wing sarcasm is as lame as it is dishonest.
    Look at what's happening all over the Muslim world.

    The people are just as fed up with their own leaders acting as puppets for western powers, and for the corruption and oppression that they see.

    They understand that those same leaders act with impunity because the west keeps arming them and turning a blind eye to their criminal acts as long as they are willing stooges in their game of power politics.

    People like Gaddafi, Noriega or Mubarak were subservient to western interests, and we didn't care how badly they screwed their own people just as long as they did our bidding as well.

    So it is clear that Muslims understand who their enemies are, and they have turned their anger on both the neo-colonial actions of the west as well as the corrupt puppet regimes who rule them at home.

    Anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty and historical knowledge knows this.
     
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    This review was also very good.

     
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    Ok, good luck in your country. Oh, and you can F off too.
     
  18. James Cessna

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    you are very correct, Surfer Joe.

    We should leave the Muslims to their own self-destructive behavior. When they are not attacking Israel, they are busy killing each other!

     
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    Bye bye! Have a good day now!
     
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    ??? weird.

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    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Really? Ok well than here's a list for you.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

    Now, how many attacks were towards other muslims, than towards Americans? Take your time.
     
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    Libocalypsenow New Member

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    I understand and agree with Dr. Paul for the most part but not entirely. Many Muslims around the World beg us to intervene in their nations' conflicts. Just look at Libya for example. Many Libyans were pleading with the West to get involved with their Civil War. So it's not quite as black & white as Dr. Paul thinks on this one. If Muslims don't want us getting involved with their internal conflicts,they need to quit begging us to do so. They can't have it both ways.
     
  23. Iolo

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    Quisling governments ask their masters to do what they want. It has nothing to do with people.
     
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    Well i think the Libyan People will disagree with you on that one. They seem to feel getting rid of Gaddafi is a victory for the Libyan People. That's what i'm observing anyway. Also,i'm getting pretty sick of hearing about who the Muslims hate and why they hate them. I'm just not interested in hearing that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) anymore. Muslims can't have their cake and eat it too. They seem to only hate America and the West when they think it's convenient. They do a lot of begging to get the West involved with their internal conflicts all over the World. So my response to them is...Quit begging and control your own destinies.
     
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    The journalists certainly do, but as to the people, we'd better wait and see how they judge the theft of their oil. What you are tired of doesn't matter much - if you keep on invading other countries they'll fight back, obviously, as you would. 'Muslims' are a whole lot of different people, just like Americans: some Americans hate everyone, most don't. Almost all except scumbags hate foreign occupiers, everywhere and always. Stop ranting and pay attention to the world.
     

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