How valuable is a college education?

Even us dinosaurs can see that, but it is functioning as designed. As a dismal failure has been the goal.

 

There has to be another way. Because college should mean more benefits.

 

Supposedly we have 16.2% unemployment and/or under-employment which is about 23 million Americans out of work.

Please explain which government regulations, if changed, can create millions of jobs?

 

In your statement above, the word 'benefits' is quite subjective.

More benefits?? More what??

 

That and CEO's.

However...ultimately, automation will make it so that human labor is not in very high demand for much of anything.

 

I also think that our government's ability to change the situation is very limited.

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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More access to things of value. More earning power. Smarter brains. Etc.

 

If you are a corporation is there any value in having made-in-the-USA products? So many falsely claim they will pay more to buy American made products but the reason we have imports today is because Americans want to pay less...not more! If an electronics company markets made-in-USA versus made in Japan or wherever, will this greatly ramp up sales? Most of these manufacturing areas around the world are not set up in tee-pees; they are normally state-of-the-art, modern facilities, which rival any of those we find in the USA. How much change will the US government, and the US citizenry actually need to make, plus assuring these changes will be in place for the long-term, in order to have corporations invest million$/billion$ to manufacture in the USA...

 

Translation; F(*)(*)(*) you America! Financing communism and communist dictators is much more profitable. Keep buying our crap though, please keep buying our crap.

 

Too bad you can't just answer the questions;

If you are a corporation is there any value in having made-in-the-USA products?

If an electronics company markets made-in-USA versus made in Japan or wherever, will this greatly ramp up sales?

 

We are all TOLD college isn't for everybody... do you know everybody?

 

The developed nations doing well under globalism, are those who companies don't want "made in China" on the side of their products. Obviously, "the right now" philosophy of our nation is not exclusively a problem for the middle class and working poor. Even though nations like Germany are not making as much money off the top on the cheap labor, their products are world renown for quality and will always be in high demand. The "made in China" products are only valuable so long as they stay cheap enough for the forever declining dollar of the fewer and fewer American workers. Once our economy goes completely in the tank, so does all the companies that moved. Only Americans are dumb enough to buy the crap. And one can argue, because of stagnant wages and devaluation of currency, Americans don't have much of a choice and their "wanting" of such products is a facetious opinion.

 

That is awesome but remember learning doesn't really happen in the classroom.

 

They're dishonest questions to begin with, but I will try anyway.
　
　
Is there any value in having products made in the good old US of A? You bet your sweet patutee there is. It boosts our economy by creating jobs, helps make communities stronger by having manufacturing in them, keeps taxes lower for everybody and keeps the dollar strong, reduces crime, eliminates public dependency for people who cannot find work if jobs are taken out of the country, and it adds to the security of our nation by not financing proven enemies in the past that could pose a potential danger in the future if they are allowed to build their military forces with the money that should be making our own country richer and stronger, and therefore safer.
　
　
Will it help sales? Absolutely once people get back to realizing the realization of how important it is that we don't sale out the needs of our people, our communities, and the needs of the nation as a whole itself, so a small minority will go from rich to filthy stinking rich from our sacrifice. Lately people have forgotten this and we are left in a state of utter dependency on the government and losing our severity and our security as we speak, in the process.
　
　
　
But hey, corporate/wall street mentality dictates that the good old US of A is an antiquated has been, not worth saving, and totally indignant when it comes to much more important things like keeping the greedy rich, rich, and allowing them to become richer at everybody else’s expense.
　
　
F(*)(*)(*) you America! Financing communism and communist dictators is much more profitable. Keep buying our crap though, please keep buying our crap. If you know what is best for a small minority of rich/elitists you will participate in the further destruction of this once great nation, or we will see to it's destruction without "we the peoples" help, with the best government corporate money can buy's assistance. We no longer need the people of the US of A to further our agenda. We have communist nations and their dictators to further our needs.

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BuckNaked again.

PF socialism. +1 in spirit.

 

To be fair, a hell of a lot of stuff is produced in the USA today. So manufacturing is not dead or dying.

And it doesn't make any difference if it's China, or Mexico or Timbuktu; what matters is why manufacturing continues to leave the USA?

It is difficult today to avoid buying imports! As I look around my office right now, almost everything in my sight is an import. If you want electronics...it's not made in the USA. If you want furniture...it's not made in the USA. Antique clocks and barometers, older hardback books are about the only things in my office made in the USA.

Can this trend be changed? It will be tough and if possible will take decades. With population growth between 2.0-2.5 million per year, plus another 1.0 million legal immigrants, this just exacerbates the employment discussion...

 

　
　
　
It is very dishonest. You want to ignore the cause and effect of decisions such as outsourcing for unnaturally high profits. And it is extremely damaging to our country, and the negative outweighs the benefits to the point we are deliberately destroying our own economy in the process when it isn‘t necessary, and in doing so contradicts the idiotic claim of a global economy. It's absurd to continue to spout such idiocy. It is also completely counter productive for our government to continue to allow such policies that encourage more of the same.
　
　
　

　
　
　
Consumer confidence keep decreasing not increasing. At some point or another they will be forced to ask themselves how many more years will this be sustainable, and is eventually destroying that base going to be what is best for the company in the long run? Let me assure you it is not. Who's going to buy your crap when the US of A is forced into bankruptcy due to diminished job capacity, zero consumer confidents, dwindling gainfully employed to purchase crap made in 3rd world hell holes that can't buy the crap either. You actually think somebody from Taiwan or Vietnam, who lives in a grass hut with no utilities, has a use for electronics? And even if you build them a power grid, on the money they are paid $6 a day in most cases, they are going to be able to buy a $1200.00 TV, they have to pay $100.00 a month for a satellite to even be able to use it???
　
　

　
　
Then you would be sadly mistaken. China was a threat before, but they are proficiently becoming a formidable adversary, not only with the technology our corporate traitors are supplying them with on a daily basis but the funding/financing to not only build one of the largest standing armies, but pay for advanced military equipment at an alarming rate of speed. You honestly think they are the only one’s directly benefiting from the mass exodus of jobs and technology headed their way?

 

You seem to be correct in your evaluation of the corporate world in the USA. To add, the USA has overcapitalized on every industry in the USA. Hence the profit margins are so small that employers have no ability to hire without losing money. In turn, these mega corporations that own the Federal government also control the regulations that squeeze out their competition. As a result, these mega corporations trun to other countries that have not been capitalized on. In other words there is opportunity to grab greater profits off the products and services. In turn, they allow licensing and oversight of the forigen operations. Hence, capitalism has oversaturated the USA. As a result the profits are lower and the capital overhead is greater than abroad.

As far as your assumption that the USA and China will be in a cold war is highly unlikely for several reasons. 1) the USA is broke and in debt to China. 2) China needs the USA consumer to buy thier stuff to make money, 3) China has never attaced a counntry in it's history. 4) the new global market with China profiting will bring the USA down regardless of a cold war. 5) the Chinese are to smart to spend all their money in the military. However all this could change if we get a chicken hawk defense contrator as a president. Then the USA will for sure lose the arms race and money race.

Back to the thread. College education is only a ticket to apply for a job requiring a degree. A degree is about 10% of the application, the other 90% is experience and track record of performance. One of the biggest scams are college degrees. When you evaluate the amount of money some spend on a degree, and what they owe on the college loans and credit card debt, and what they make starting in any semi-profession, they will not be successfull untill they are in their mid 30s. By then, a high school grad in the labor/trade/construction industry, or public saftey profession, will have a marriage, house, and kids, and building up a retirement.

Depending on the individual's ability and drive to succeed, they can acheive any occupation or goal faster or slower than one with the same education at the start of their careers. Remember, a college degree will only open a door, the rest is on a person's ability, experience, and track record of employment, and acheivements and success of that previous employments.

 

I for got to mention. FYI: this is a global competitive world in which we live. It would be nice to live in a safe secure, simple world with no changes after you turn 18. We can all deny that the world is below us and that we are superior with our very expensive college degrees that our parents paid for. If that is the type of mindset you have, than become a public school teacher. Life for them stops at 18 years old and you can live the privilaged safe, secure, no accountability lifestyle, with a good income off the taxpayer in the comfort of a easygoing school environment.

But the fact is, a lot has changed over the past 15 years. And, people in other countries are as smart if not more smart than most of the kids graduating today (College & High School) in the USA. In the real world of corporations and buisness, they have seen the rest of the world, and know where they would profit the most from their investment. As a result, they seek the best and the brightest when it comes to high tech, engenering, medical, and bio technology. So if the kids in the USA want to work in these areas, they need to be the best and the brightest in the world.

As the USA continues to decline with no growth and overcapitalization, other emerging countries will establish their own top of the line universities and labs, and they will recruit the best of the best to run them, and their professors and ownership will not be Americans. Hence, these forigen universities will only take in their own, not from the USA. That will leave American professors in the USA stabbing eachothers backs to keep their jobs. Same can be said for public school teachers who will get the axe when the States need to reduce spending. As a result, the only ones left in the USA school system is the ones who are good at keeping their jobs, and they may not be the best for teaching.

 

It appears that while the rest of the world has been adjusting to the global economy, the USA just sat around like a fat cat gorging itself with our unsustainable consumption...and out of control government spending.

Essentially, the USA has been caught off-guard! With our pants down! With our heads in the sand! Amazingly deep in debt with five parallel wars and unemployment and a political mad-scramble towards the 2012 elections...

 

The US is not the only country experiencing economic difficulties.

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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In discussions about the USA, particularly education and university study, I don't care what other nations are doing or not doing. The comment you present that other nations are experiencing economic issues can in no way excuse or justify our pathetic mess in the USA...

 

I agree. People don't put enough emphasis on education. It's the cornerstone of our society.