Republicans Oppose Jobs Bill To Protect Millionaires

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL.

    Alright.


    You just couldn't find a way to blame the democrat congress and their historic agenda to blame for the economic downturn, but had absolutely no problem placing the blame for the ongoing recession on republicans.

    Never mind a democrat controlled house, senate, and executive branch for how many years?

    What a joke.

    LOL.

    You mean the democrats couldn't have fixed all of these things instead of passing Obamacare?

    You don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about logical discussion. You care about cheerleading. Your a little girl, in a skirt, with pom pons, jumping up and down for your team.

    Whatever.
     
  2. Ore_Ele

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    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

    Bias data, not surprising.

    The unemployment numbers for the years are cherry picked months to make it look better for Bush than for Obama. Bush's economy was losing 800,000 jobs a month when Obama took office, and so created massive unemployment (which you are trying to blame on Obama).

    http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

    Look at the actual number of Jobs on the chart and where Obama took office, and you want to suggest that this is Obama's fault? It is clearly something that predates Obama's presidency.
     
  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're all over the place, BTB. Care to move the goalposts again? :lol:

    The implosion of the housing market and the fiscal irresponsibility of millions of Americans who lived waaaaaay beyond their means are what caused the economic downturn that your clueless Leftist champions in Washington can't even hope to remedy by repeating their failed economic policies.

    Now, after everything has failed, the Left is defaulting to its class warfare position, as if their previously failed redistributive schemes will magically cure what ails our economy this time around.

    Could the Left get more desperate?
     
  4. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    Yeah and there was an economist in 2001 named Paul Krugman who advocated for the inflation of that bubble, along with all the rest of the "liberal"(socialist) economists.
     
  5. Ore_Ele

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    That second link doesn't appear to work.

    okay.

    1) go to google.com
    2) seach "total US jobs chart"
    3) select option 3, "Employment - Bureau of labor statistics data"
    4) click on "more formating options"
    5) de-select "1-month net change" (though you can look at that one too)
    6) select "original data value"
    7) click retrieve data
     
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    Republicans Oppose Jobs Bill

    Its not just Republicans....there are many Democrats who oppose Obama's Zero Jobs Bill as well.....

    ......anyone with active brain waves is opposed to Barack Zero Jobs Obama.....especially after Obama's First Jobs Bill was the complete and utter failure that it was.

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    Worse Than Doing Nothing--Barack HusSame Obama

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  7. Smartmouthwoman

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    Hold up one foot, rub your belly and dance a jig... you'll still come up with an economy that took a nose dive the same year Obama (1) took office, (2) crammed thru Obamacare and (3) poured a trillion dollars down the drain with very little to show for it.

    Sorry, but the blame-Bush-o-meter ran outta steam over 2 yrs ago. It's all Barack's baby now.
     
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    Figures you'd close your eyes and ears to proof.
     
  9. Ore_Ele

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    No he didn't. He did not advocate for the lack of proper regulations which allowed banks to game the system by taking the profit and dumping the risk on the government. And he came out against those very policies.
     
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    LOL - Who needs jobs when you've got ObamaCare? ;)

    Now, thank your Socialist overlords, you ungrateful kulak...
     
  11. Ore_Ele

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    Job loss began January 2008 (12 months before Obama took office). In all of Bush's last 12 months, jobs were lost EVER MONTH. With job loss peaking at January of 2009 (when Obama took office).

    From January 2009, the jobs picture got better (meaning lossing less jobs than the month before) 13 out of the next 16 months. Those are numerical facts.
     
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    We're talking about 2 different recessions. You just mentioned teh 2008 one and I was describing our CURRENT one. They are two different cycles related to entirely different circumstances. Unfortunately for us, it seems like one big economic mess (3 years apart) because, and I'll lay blame where it belongs, the Obama administration and the Dems in office actually didn't do ENOUGH to remove our country from Bush policy. Had we raised taxes on everyone in late 2009 when the economy was improving, passed a real socialized medicine plan, pulled completely out of Iraq and passed extremely punishing tax penalties for outsourcing American jobs while profiting as megacorps, we'd be in much better shape today. I DO give blame to teh left, but its mostly related to not ridding us of the horrendous policies of the right.
     
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    Try not to use facts with these people. They don't understand the concept of actual history, only Fox News revisionist history.
     
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    Wanna take a stab at addressing my questions I posed to you in two threads, or are you just gonna keep ducking it???
     
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    Well too (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bad, the American People as a majority rejected that agenda, no one wants to pay higher taxes to support your liberal boondoggles. They'd rather the nation "fail" by liberal standards.
     
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    No, we're not. That's why the current malaise is described as a double-dip recession. That's singular tense, BTB.

    Ask yourself, has the housing market that imploded and drove the economy into a nosedive in 2008 rebounded? No, it hasn't. In fact, we're looking at a tsunami of home foreclosures that is going to burst out of the pipeline soon.

    Baloney. What we have here is a continuation of the existing economic downturn with the additional stresses on the economy that have arisen since Obama took office.

    LOL. Are you serious? :lol:

    Raising taxes in the midst of a recession, creating more government programs on top of the ones that are already insolvent (what do we have, $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities already?) and hastening the withdrawal from a country we were already withdrawing from would not have resuscitated our economy nor will it resuscitate our economy.

    If you want to blame the Left for anything, blame it for its cluelessness concerning market economics. You can't have ignorant and incompetent people who are completely out of their depth in charge of remedying what ails our economy today. That's why we're heading for a double-dip instead of a rebound right now. Bad ideas and bad policy invariably produce bad results.
     
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    It is amazing how the left can produce a simple minded slogan, bordering on a flat lie, repeat it over and over and over again, and then pretend to the moral high ground...

    Of course, the truth is far simpler...strip away the lefts single talking point, that 'it is all about tax increases on the evil rich' and look at what is the real position, that republicans KNOW raising taxes in a recession is a job killer, and you arrive at an economic issue and not an simple minded emotional class envy one.
     
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    Obama's report card... with footnotes to statistics:

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    To footnotes

    Granted, some of these things weren't in his control (price of sugar cane)... but the ones that were, i.e., # of people on food stamps and at poverty level, unemployment, price of gasoline, increase in # of people on long-term unemp -- all of these are things previous presidents have taken responsibility for.

    Of course, until Obama came along. He takes responsibility for NOTHING and his supporters seem to agree... he's blameless. Amazing how that works. :omg:
     
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    Honest is not something the left does well, or often, or ever.

    The issue is about political power, not economics or millionaires. The left owes 90% of their political power to simple vote buying and bribes, with other folks money. Few love the left. They left needs a constant stream of ever increasing tax dollars to keep the goodies going to the lefts base, bought and paid for. If the money is reduced or....shudder...stops, the lefts voter base goes away fast. No taxes means no power means no left which is why all the lying about evil millionaires is so universal.

    The left does not need to tell the truth...they need to keep the lie simple and loud so their idiot followers can repeat it, and repeat it, and repeat it until they pretend it is a prove fact...

    'Fact' by repetition from the lefts pet media and idiot base.
     
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    Shhhhh...maybe no one will notice and maybe it will be dis-proven by not being carried by the lefts media...
     
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    This is wonderful -- Obama has totally exposed conservatism for the morally and political bankrupt philosophy it is, so all the resident Tea Partiers are whining.

    Get used to it. It's the first salvo in the total demise of conservatism in this country.
     
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    Actually, Obama has totally exposed the lefts agenda as a failure for the entire world to see....

    All that he did to the right was give the public a leftist position to compare to the rights, a positions being rejected more and more in every poll and with every failure.

    At the rate we are going, in a year we will be in the "What if Abama gave a speech and no one came?" situation.
     
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    Maybe you could tell us what you think has happened between Mid-Terms 2010 and now that leads you to think the conservative movement is dying.

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    I love a good fairy tale.
     
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    Republican Scott Brown's acquisition of Ted Kennedy's senate seat was the first major indicator something was wrong in Denmark....yet, leftists played it off as irrelevant....then, last falls' aptly named (by Obama, himself) "shellacking" occurred.

    NY-09 is the second major indicator of what is in store for 2012....

    yet, hard core progressive leftists like Landru must continue to live in denial.... forever convincing themselves that their delusional ideology overreach is not at the very core of these repudiations.
     

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