Top economist says raise minimum wage

4.9≠4.946

 

4.946 Billion is the same as saying 4,946 billion. It doesn't matter if I don't use the extra numbers or not. The point is you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Oh boy...here we go again...

 

It is the only defense he has left.

 

Don't start with the insults just because you were proven wrong after arguing for several pages. You did not say most. You were quite clear. And no I did not use that link. I used several others just to confirm what I already knew from common knowledge.

 

Who is going where with who?

 

Minimum wage jobs used to be considered like the baby step into the working world or perhaps to help supplement a pension. It wasn't until some whacked out liberal somewhere decided there should be a living wage involved, then these jobs were no longer stepping stones or pick me ups, but careers.

 

Two posters who always seem to derail threads with their incessant and largely irrelevant back-and-forth bickering.

 

I blame Nixon and Clinton.

 

People only derail threads when they don't have an intellectual brain stem to stand on.

Now go be silly somewhere else.

 

It is because China has a source of desperately poor peasant labor that they can pay an absurdly small amount to work. Unless you want us to live the lives of Chinese peasants, we simply cannot compete. It has almost nothing to do with regulation, and everything to do with the cost of labor.

 

I stated from the get go that the largest employers of minimum wage workers are small businesses. McD is the second largest, behind Subway, of franchised (small) businesses with 85% of their locations as franchises. Subways is even more of a franchise chain. These franchises are ran by the owners of that franchise who kicks up fees to the corporation. To raise the minimum wage on the guise that the corporations are the ones that pay most of the employees is false and misleading, AKA a LIEbral attempt to take from the successful and give to those that can't do for themselves.

 

You took the words right out of my mouth...

I will not have my silliness dictated to me.

 

The cost of labor has EVERYTHING to do it regulation. What are you talking about?

 

But wouldn't you agree that the cost of labor in the US is being inflated by regulations?

 

I have actually had intelligent conversations with Ethereal. I think he is almost always wrong, but he at least makes an attempt to defend his positions, and often does so in an intelligent fashion. Other people I cannot say the same about.

 

Excuse me for trying to stop the liberals from using the "big bad corp" argument to raise minimum wage on small business owners.

 

I guess by his erroneous logic I'm wrong for saying Pi equals just 3.14.

Instead I should be precise and say that it equals 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510

 

You said this...

This is false. End of story.

 

I wasn't referring to you broseph.

 

Explain. You made an assertion, based on nothing. Please at the very least present an argument to support your conclusion. I am at the point at this forum where I don't expect evidence, or particularly intelligent arguments any more, but at least some argument would be great!! Thanks.

 

Ethernal is cool peoples I guess. He's still a dummy.

 

I made an assertion based on nothing and you made an assertion based on nothing. When I elaborate on my position you elaborate on yours. That's how debates work.

Ever heard of a Paid Sick Leave Bill?

 

Not so much that it makes a difference in our ability to compete on an absolute basis with china for low paying low-skill jobs. We have competitive advantages in many industries, but if we are going to base our future economic strength on our ability to compete in an absolute sense with China, we will be in very bad shape.

 

I said this first.

Now, are you going to keep trying to argue you poor stance that raising the minimum wage won't cause higher unemployment, or higher cost for goods, or lower quality because the corporations can afford it? Or will you see the light that the large number of minimum wage workers are employed by small business that don't have the high profit margin as their parent corporations?