Iraq Vet Blasts NYPD For Abusing OWS Protesters

you have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idea what some of those men and women have gone through. My uncle was in a German POW prison for 6 months inside a 5 by 5 windowless lightless box for most of that time. He was almost beyond insane when he was gotten out of there.
It was only because his parents had money that he was able to get treatment and rejoin normal society (after YEARS of therapy and meds). There are men like him all over, who suffered even worse things, whose families simply couln`t handle the burden that they became, and so they became homeless.

If you hold that against them then you are not fit to lick their frayed torn boots. People like you are full of bravado and exist by feeding on their own ego, I bet you wouldn't last 10 seconds in a real (*)(*)(*)(*) situation.

 

They made their statement, now they are interferring with rights and private lawful business our citizens, interfering with vital commerece, costing unnecessary spending of valuable tax dollars. They can go and rent a hall and have their rally, but get out the the way and stop denying other citizens their rights. Especially the property owners, if they say out, then out NOW.

If they refuse we pay the police to remove them and arrest any who break the law if they refuse.

 

Do you have a constitutional right to take over someones land and property causing it damage and maintenance?

Do you have a constitutional right interfere in the private lawful business of other citizens?

You have a right to free speech, do you have the right to force other citizens to bear the cost of your engaging in it? Go rent a hall and get out of everyone else's way. If you have something worth hearing we'll listen, if not, oh well. You dont have a right to be listened to.

 

Every American has the right to protest. Anyone will not disagree with that. However, your rights as an American end when they infringe on me, create public safety issues, or put the country/public at risk in general. So some of the OWS are excursing their Constitutional rights, some of them however, are not ie. riots and not listening to the police(which is a crime).

 

That might be a valid argument except for the reporter and his cameraman who were standing lawfully on the sidewalk, simply covering the event before they were struck repeatedly and then maced - along with others.
But hey. I get it. They have different political views than you do so they deserve it, right? Yah mein fuhrer...

 

Your false assumption is that they are peaceful. When you attack the police you deserve a beating.

And many of these protestors have done exactly that.

 

If they attacked police then yes, the right to free speech stops there just as it would if they were destroying public property.

However it is never right for police to "Beat" anyone excessive force is illegal whether you have a badge or not.

 

I'd be plenty happy if the police just got out of the way and let private citizens like me do the head busting ala Tahrir Square. The Government may have to respect free speech, I do not.

62% of Democrats support socialism, it's too late now the cancer has spread to far it's time for drastic action on the part of all Americans everywhere who don't want to fall under the thumb of an authoritarian socialism.

 

Um regarding the Bold part, do you have a link? No. How about a definition of socialism? NASA? The VA? Programs for the blind? Libraries? Highways? Those are all social programs not defined in the Constitution.

According to strict interpretation, the majority of Republicans support "socialism".

But tell you what sweetheart, we'll let the USMC Sgt. know you want to go bust his head. Or you can come to Vegas and play with me at the LVKC.
Oh wait. Lemme guess. Hiding behind the anonimity of the net, you're a triple black belt in Jedi kung fu... Yeah. Never seen that before...

 

LMAO! Love it. I never get any good political arguments face to face.

 

I hate blanket generalizations of police officers, and this veteran is just making himself look foolish by attempting to chastise these officers (who are just doing their jobs). Too many times do the actions of a few tend to represent the majority, and it's a chosen practice to see only the negative actions of cops and judge accordingly.

 

I'm a United States Army MEDDAC Desert Storm Vet and I agree. As was said during the RNC Debate the other night, these people are protesting at the wrong place.

Wall Street has not caused the problems like the housing bubble.

The liberals in Washington have.

Wall Street has not caused the problems with the education system in this nation.

The liberals in Washington have.

Wall Street has not caused the high cost of living.

The Liberals in Washington have.

And yet these George Soros backed "occupy wall street" protestors don't protest the liberals who've legislated us to this point.

No instead they lie, and protest "the rich".

Anyone starting to see a pattern here?

 

You are right many have gone on to achieve great things, but many are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up from the combat experiences they had in those wars. Now only an idiot would try to brush it off as if many of these veterans are still not suffering today and they are only homeless because they are lazy or just don't want nothing. See giving someone a VA check in many cases does not address the problem.

 

You're right. They need to be staging "sit-ins" on the steps of the Capitol Building in Washington D.C. and attacking Congressmen as they walk in and out of the place. Congress is the cause of the problem, not Wall Street.

 

Why does being a vet get you any higher standing on a political issue?

 

Yeah, I remember the streets of America covered in homeless WWII vets.......wait a minute.....that didn't happen, and the conflict was horrific compared to anything afterward. Probably because- people wouldn't accept that type of behavior, a sense of personal responsibility and family, a sense of respect for vets, and being a drunken bum was illegal, ect. In short, I'm not buying the hype.


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Ill go ahead and say this again jackweed.

you have no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idea what some of those men and women have gone through. My uncle was in a German POW prison for 6 months inside a 5 by 5 windowless lightless box for most of that time. He was almost beyond insane when he was gotten out of there.
It was only because his parents had money that he was able to get treatment and rejoin normal society (after YEARS of therapy and meds). There are men like him all over, who suffered even worse things, whose families simply couln`t handle the burden that they became, and so they became homeless.

If you hold that against them then you are not fit to lick their frayed torn boots. People like you are full of bravado and exist by feeding on their own ego, I bet you wouldn't last 10 seconds in a real (*)(*)(*)(*) situation.

 

It doesn't, but both sides love to use vets as political pawns. Point in case, this thread.

 

Give us a history lesson old wise one, were Vietnam Vets treated they same as WWII vets when they returned from the war?

One other question for you old wise one, have you ever served in a forward area?
Ever seen a fellow soldier killed?
Ever seen a enemy killed?

 

Well when you just make up random bullshet and then won't back up your lies, why would you expect anyone to counter or even take you seriously?

 

I hate blanket generalizations too. You should read some the blanket generalizations made about the people in OWS!

 

I have... the same thing happened to the tea party, and there were numerous requests to see the fringe elements as just that, acknowledging that they don't represent a majority of the movement. I hope people haven't forgotten their previous sentiments.

Who am I kidding though... it's a never-ending cycle.

 

Pick a city. Go to NY and you will have some nutjobs, but the one I was at yesterday was more like a TEA party meeting of people that were just fed up with politicians in general. Wasn't a lot of Obamalove going on, but wasn't a lot of Rick Perry love going down either. Just a lot of people pissed off at the current Washington DC cesspool and how they are all in bed with big corporate donors. I wore a Cain Tee shirt and had at least a dozen people approach me and ask me about him, most seemed to think favorably of him just because he has never held office. Term limit discussion was also popular there.