What better illustrates America's slavery to corporatism than this?

Meanwhile, in the real world of what Americans actually want:



... and this:



And you wonder why people are protesting in the streets?

Simple. Their representatives are in the employ and thrall of a greedy minority.

Until they have a system of political representation that reflects their interests, they will remain enslaved.

 

How am I supposed to make an argument of this? LOL!
Well, lets face it, the Republicans are in the process of throwing the whole country under a bus just to show spite for President Obama, and they really don’t care who they hurt to do it.

I’ve said in the past President Obama is too conservative for my liking, but at least he is putting some kind of plan on the table. It’s actually something Republicans have supported in the past, so it exemplifies the continued Republican bigotry against our duly elected President.

I do NOT understand how anyone thinks the Republican agenda has any good or beneficial promise for out future.
Heck, I’m surprised they seem to have thrown self preservation to the wind just to take Obama down. What are they going to be in charge of if they wreck the country beyond repair? Who are they going to rule?
Crazy.

 

To me at this point Obama and the demo republicrats are totaly irelevant in anything they do. we, the people already know this scum does not represent us.

 

Yes, it's curious the mentality of Republicans - and Americans who let them do it. Having already engineered a disaster while they were in power, they now want to deliberately engineer another one to get themselves back into power.

Which, of course, makes you all just playthings of the rich and retrograde.

 

Why is it that clear evidence that the American government is embarked on a policy that is designed to ignore the wishes of the American people, and in fact undermine them, is so unremarkable?

 

They're not going to even talk about this here becase it's too clear that the people on THIS forum are mostly Obama haters and unrealistic in thier views.
I love your example Awryly, because it's indisputable proof they are wrong on what the people want.

They must keep things fact free, you know? LOL!
The part that upsets me is that I really hoped when Obama got elected by a solid majority, it would show we had changed as a nation, that we were finally beyond all the racial, social, religious, and class biggotry that tears our country aprt so bad, but it just seemed to get it started again.

People who hate Obama and liberals, and democrats, will cut off their own noses in spit of their own faces, just to be nasty about it.
It's a real shame.

 

Yes. The example was one that glaringly revealed the paucity of rational argument from the right. And they have no answer to it.

I watched Mitch McConnell on State of the Nation miserably trying to weasle his way out of the same question asked of him by Candy Crowley.

Here we see they don't even try. Why anyone takes these people seriously beats me.

 

The silence is truly stunning.

 

Your talking about raising taxes on certain individuals in order to give the benefits of the money raised to another group of individuals? thats income redistribution and its unfair. Teachers should not be on the public payroll and i am of the opinion that government far oversteps its power in doing so. We spend more on education per capita than any other country in the world and look how efficient it is. Private schools achieve far greater success than their public counterparts, so why not simply spend the money we raise for public educational programs and give them to the people so they can attend better schools? Or better yet, eliminate the taxes in place to fund public school and let the people spend it on tuition for the school of their choice instead?

Anyways, you are talking about taxing the 'rich' in order to make jobs for other people under the government- yet in doing so you will cost other people their jobs when those 'rich' people make budget cuts to makeup the loses. In the end, all it is doing is choosing one group of people over another, punishing the most successful people we have in the country, and giving government more power over the individual.

If you want to provide government jobs, how about reducing spending so you can afford to hire more people? You can do many other things as well such as reducing pay in order to increase the number of workers. Why must you seek higher taxes on a certain group of people? They earned their success and money, let them enjoy the fruits of their work.

 

Income distribution is not "unfair".

Unless you want to live in a cave surrounded only by gold.

 

Please stop lying.. I'm so sick of hearing this bull (*)(*)(*)(*) meme.

There is nothing wrong with refusing to increase the size of the Government payrolls. We are trying to shrink the Government payroll, not increase it.

How is that "throwing America under the bus"?

You are basically advocating that unnecessary government positions be created as a form of working welfare. Why?

Come up with a plan that creates non-union private sector jobs, those are the only jobs we want to create. No other type. We are trying to shrink the Public Sector! That is not throwing America under the bus!

 

Hello.

How about releasing the 3 trillion dollars that American business has squirreled away?

Or is American enterprise no longer worth investing in?

 

Obama knew the Republicans would never pass any meaningful legislation he produced. This was more of a campaign ploy so that he could pretend its 1948 and run against a 'do-nothing' Congress. The problem is Democrats aren't exactly excited about the bill he proposed either.

 

The bill you showed in your OP has NOTHING to do with that! It's all about hiring more cops, more teachers, more firefighters. We have enough of those, their unions are bankrupting entire cities!

Get it? There is currently a No Help Wanted sign as far as anyone being hired in the public sector.

 

Hello.

How about releasing the 3 trillion dollars American business has squirreled away?

Oops, did I say that already?

 

A lie repeated one thousand times won't become true.

 

What is the lie? That Police, Firefighter and Teacher unions are bankrupting cities? That's simply true. There are plenty of articles out there about it.

 

That is not a public resource to just draw on. We're not a socialism here where wealth can just be confiscated anytime the State needs money.

 

Are those articles factual or opinion pieces?

I think the cities are bankrupt because the people living in them don't have any money. I don't think unions are bankrupting anything.

 

Oh yeah. And? How I said a lie repeated one thousand times won't become true. You can show me propaganda articles, but I want factual article.

And the problem is clear, people is earning everyday less. So there is less money. Easy.

 

The problem is that yes. USA is a fascist country. Why?

Because fascism can be translated too as corporativism, and USA is corporativist or in other word that now is very actual, socialism for riches. What this means? Socialize loses and privatize profits. It is the today's America. So yes, you're socialist for riches. And you're confiscating money anytime private needs it. You give the money of all to a few to become richer.

 

Here's an idea. Create private sector jobs with the 3 trillion.

Then you get taxes you can use to educate, protect and keep yourselves safe from suicide bombers.

Start with the education.

 

Hello.

How about releasing the 3 trillion for investment in the private sector. (Third time lucky.)

Then you get people paying taxes. Then you get government revenue. Then you get education and stuff.

And if you don't get that, you have more foodstamps to hand out.

 

First of all I am NOT lying, I’m telling it like I see it. You don’t agree that’s fine, but if you want to accuse people of telling lies, then you opened up a can of worms you don’t want.

IMHO, the whole “less government” more “private sector” argument is the biggest lie ever told, and all you have to do is look at the facts to prove it.

There is nothing “unnecessary” about fixing infrastructure, bridges, roads, sewer systems, dams, and any such crucial elements of our daily lives, any more than law enforcement, fire fighters, public sanitation workers, or teachers are “unnecessary”.

If you want to live without those things, then go to another country where they don’t have those things, see how well it works out for you.

Who are you to decide for everyone else that we should “only” create non-union private sector jobs? Who is going to make that happen? THAT is a gimmick just like the bank bailout, you want to allow these exceedingly wealthy corporations and individuals to get away from paying a similar share of their good fortune, basically put it in the banks and invest it over seas, and produce NOTHING for the very country that made them wealthy in the first place!

You cut the government, you cut taxes for the wealthy and what do they give us back? NOTHING! This IS the “lie” you should be complaining about, because the Republican party has been feeding it to us for 30 years, and it is NOT working.

Under Bill Clinton, we raised the taxes on the wealthy and increased government spending on at home projects, the economy went up, we had a surplus budget, and we created 23 million new jobs! That is a FACT! It is NOT an opinion.

Under G.W. Bush we cut taxes for the wealthy, we increased government spending on 2 wars that was “off the books”, cut down on local government spending, we created the deficit, and we only created 3 million new jobs.

Those are the simple facts. No lies, just statistics, and you want to keep going down road number 2? Who is believing what lies here? The Republicans would have you believe in “trickle down economics”, and there is NO evidence that the private sector even lifts a finger for job growth when they get a tax break, and if anything they tend to pocket the money and cut more jobs when they get them.

You want to see how real “trickle down economics” work? Let the government invest in infrastructure! When they create jobs it’s local, it’s fair wages, and it feeds our country! Every cop, teacher, firefighter, contract construction worker who get’s paid with government money, our tax dollars, goes out and buys American products and services!

That means every government employee IS an investment in our country! They buy houses, food, clothing, cars, computers, tools, which in turn provides more income for all those other businesses! Then they are able to hire more people and pay more taxes and every jockey in a donut shop who serves a cop on the beat is contributing back into the pool of government revenue that made his job possible!

There is NO excuse why the top 2% cannot pay the same percentage of their income as that guy or girl serving donuts, or that bagger at the store, or that janitor at the mall.
There is only the Republican “private sector” lie.

 

All private sector jobs are non-union unless the employees decide to unionize. You legally cannot tell people in the private sector that they cannot organize; it would be a violation of the NLRA of 1934. If private sector employers don't want unions, then give the employees what they feel they need to have to live a lifestyle comfortable to them.