Wisconsin, Scott Walker's union reform is working!!

Most likely? Will it or will it not?

If your property has taken a hit in value like the vast majority of the country, ask your county assessor to reassess your property.

Regardless, your former Democrat Governor Doyle in his last term raised taxes by 1.4 Billion dollars, squandered 2.1 billion dollars of stimulus dollars on municipal unions and healthcare programs, increased the costs of tuition, increased the deficits, and early released hundreds of convicts from prison due to deficient budget. In other words it was a mess.

 

Blame a union.

 

Unfortunately this is going to hurt the people who don't deserve it, the teachers and the students.

In my district the teachers contribute more than the private sector and make less. The administration however, often makes well over 6 figures and contribute nothing to pensions and healthcare, and if it passes only the teachers will have changes. The teachers already haven't gotten raises in 7 years while the admin get two a year and only the teachers have already gotten pay cuts and 175 lay offs.

The teachers aren't bankrupting the state and now they have been villified and are having to deal with unwarranted abuse from the public.

 

Fox Business Network's Eric Bolling says Wisconsin teachers get compensated nearly double those in private sector

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...siness-news-eric-bolling-says-wisconsin-teac/

Sorry, the host can not feed the parasite any longer.

 

Sorry, I meant to specify I'm in Ohio, similar thing going on here. I can't speak for the entire state, just my district.

I find it hard to believe though, I have two cousins teaching in Wisconsin and they make dirt compared to the private sector and while their benifits are decent, they pay more into them then they ever get out of them.

 

I see a lot of personal attacks on Walker, but nothing on the content.

I guess the beta male liberals are firing blanks... again.

 

Did you read or are you listening to your cousins sob story?

"We got blackboard, here it is, Wisconsin teachers make a salary of $51,000...Benefits $38,000 per year, that comes to a whopping 89,000 bucks, while the rest of us, all workers in the United States, union, non-union, etc., $38,000 is your average salary...there, $10,000 in benefits, a quarter of what you make, that you would make if you were a Wisconsin teacher, to 48 grand, almost half the amount. Yet collective bargaining says that is OK. That's not anti-free market?"

 

I read it, it's just not the whole picture. I never said I was completely against it anywhere. Just injecting some personal experience for conversation's sake. I said in a previous thread on the same topic I think there should be union reform, but after attending all the school board meetings and going over in detail on how this will effect the people in my district and talking extensively to both sides there is a lot of misinformation going around and it is going to have a negative effect on the teachers and students. That's all.

 

Dreamer?


Could you unpack that a bit. The article clearly illustrates the benefits of the changes and the progress being made. Yet you deny it, underhandidly calling the OP a liar.

What do you have to back that up?

 

It is really kind of sad isn't it.

At first the left said it would "destroy the state".
And now that it is coming out that the plans are working as promised, saving the state millions, they are wanting to redo the damage, put the state back in the red, just because they can...

I would understand if it was costing money but it is having the opposite effects, grades are improving except in a few districts, and many areas have gone from red to black...

If we find out the PPACA is costing more money that it is saving can we scrap it or do we have to just "eat our greens" anyway?

Look at the facts, stop using your blinders for just ONE second please.

 

Had to post for chuckles.

 

I live in Wisconsin. There is no doubt whatsoever that Walker's reforms are working. The evidence is clear: Government workers have not lost their jobs (as they claimed would happen). School system budgets are actually operating in the black (which is exactly the opposite of what the shrill left claimed would take place). Classroom sizes are shrinking, because Districts are actually hiring more teachers as a result of much healthier budgets.

The results are inarguable; anyone who tries looks ridiculous - which is why in Wisconsin it's simply not happening. The "Recall Walker" bumperstickers I drive past on occasion are becoming increasingly scarce. The effort to recall him will fail badly.

 

Wrong as usual. You speak without total knowlege of what your talking about.

 

No, I own a business and I know many business owners. I do know what I am talking about, do you?

 

If you were a business owner you wouldn't have made the statement regarding what I posted. Try to study up on labor law before you run your mouth and accuse someone of lying.

 

I'd like to know what government job you're talking about. Based on education and training, an equivalent to a teacher in the private sector would make a six figure salary.

 

Thanks Thunder. Clear thinking people knew this would be the result and the facts of the video solidify that.

A while ago I watched the CEO of Freedomworks.org discuss how TEA Partiers shifted into another gear, and started entering into local school boards etc (as in the video), as a further proactive change towards fiscal responsibility.

 

Says the guy who brought up the Koch bros.....

 

That's almost the identical amount Obama beat McCain by! Who would I vote for? The guy who brought my property taxes down or the one who will raise them to pander to union thugs? WOW! That's a tough choice.

 

Did you even READ this story?

It points out your statement is a LIE!

No, aside from the fact that this filthy Right wing liar is comparing teachers, who have a MINIMUM of a bachelor's degree, a year of credentialing to meet No Child Left Behind Rules, and ANNUAL education requirements to the POPULATION AT LARGE, including high school dropouts, dishwashers, 711 clerks etc.

This is the EDUCATION the Right wants for our children?To pay teachers on a par with KMart workers? Why do the Republicans feel that way about teachers, but insist we MUST pay CEO's the SKY HIGH compensation "to get the best"?

 

They're spinning it by not talking about it during this recall. They know it's working, so they're having to babble other nonsense to try and win.

Looks like they're going to lose.

 

California has the highest paid teachers in the country, yet ranks 47th in the country in education level. We should have public schools with classroom proctors instead of teachers. They give the lessons via videos and administer the tests. Those students who score in the top 25% of the class each year are allowed to go to charter schools with real live teachers. This way we don't waste our money paying expensive teachers for kids who don't care to learn with parents who don't give a crap.

The very first step should be the elimination of teacher "tenure". In California it's next to impossible to actually fire teachers no matter what they do. Even the teacher who is in jail for feeding his kids semen topped cookies was allowed to "retire" early so he can still collect his pension. When was the last time any CEO was arrested for molesting kids or feeding his employees semen topped cookies? There really isn't much to respect there.