Should we bailout the stupid college kids in debt?

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    Speeders R Murderers Banned

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    You probably went to a state college which is what everyone should do. Hell with these idiots who live in iowa and insist on going to berkely or harvard.
     
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    You must really think I'm worthless Speeders...I got two liberal arts degrees and now make a living as an artist ;) I do pay my own bills however...
     
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    Maybe not, but the people that do pay me a lot of money to draw them first so they can show everyone that is going to build it what the hell it's gotta look like.
     
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    I know several successful artists. The degree shouldn't matter. But like you just said, people need to pay their bills.
     
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    They really do, and student loans are generally low interest, you can defer them briefly if you have a hardship, get on a graduated plan so you're not paying large payments when you first get out of college. There really is no excuse not to handle it yourself.
     
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    Essentially, you take out an amount of loan money that you can pay back in the least amount of time. If I have to take out loans for college, I'm not taking out more than an entry level position in my prospective job field can pay me.
     
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    I wish you very much luck in your college adventure. Just try to keep in mind what sort of job prospects there will or will not be for the major that you choose, and how much a job in that field might pay. For example.... do not spend 100k on college to get a job that only makes 40k max. I admit freely that one of the reasons I went into engineering was because it was lucritive. If you look at the guides for careers every year, engineering is always in the top ten jobs in terms of "bang for the buck". As in how much it cost to get your education vs. how much that career field pays.

    And just one more thing from someone that lived through it. I was a straight A student in HS.... never got anything less than a "B". My first semester of college I got an F in calculus. And that was NOT because I was partying too much. It flat out outclassed me that first semester. When you are in a public HS there are lots of different kinds of people on that bell curve with you. If you go to a good college, EVERYONE that goes there is in the top 10% of wherever they came from so you have to fight... just to get a "C". It was a huge ego crusher that first semester.... be prepared for that...
     
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    You've never been to college? And here I thought you actually went. I guess the misspelling of "University" should've been a dead giveaway. No wonder you didn't want to answer the question about whether we should 'bailout the stupid college kids in debt'. Good luck anyway.
     
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    Of course you're worthless. Artists are just entertainers - same as football players or jugglers. It may make you some money, but you're still a parasite who consumes but doesn't produce.
     
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    That's outrageous for tuition. Out of state tuition is crazy. You do realize there are far more expenses on top of tuition.
     
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    Diplomat is just a kid.
     
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    That's nothing compared to people who study abroad, like me.
     
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    what a question. You PAY BACK the money that you borrowed. It makes no difference WHAT you majored in or anything else. You HONOR your debts. period.
     
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    Yes, I'm fully aware. However, even with overall expenses, LSU isn't an expensive school. You may think it's outrageous, but I certainly do not. A few of the colleges and universities I'm applying to are much more expensive. However, this is what government policy and economic circumstance has created.
     
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    Now this is a switch.... arguing with the person that just one posting up... agreed with me... :) Who exactly are YOU to determine what is valuable, and what is worthless? If an artist can create art that other people want to buy, and he can do that in sufficient quantity to support himself financially... then who are you to say otherwise? Certainly neither you nor anyone else is so wise that they can see the entire specrum of careers out there and decide what is useless and what is not... I am much more libertarian in my viewpoint. And that would be.... do whatever it is you want with your life.... but do not ask me to finance your foolishness... Fairly simple I think....
     
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    It is outrageous and unjustified. The higher education system needs to be weened off the government teat once and for all. The more money funneled to them the more they will charge, simple economics.
     
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    You must be against public university education, right? As a New Yorker, I would prefer to go to a highly accredited state school rather than an average out-of-state private school. New York's post-secondary public education institutions, along with Massachusetts are the best in the nation, and even better than many private centers of learning.
     
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    Why do I get the feeling we'll be bailing your butt out in 10 years?
     
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    The smart ones will be employed and will pay off their loans.
     
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    You won't have to bail me out. I already have internships in my prospective job field in sight. All I need to do is apply. I will be applying to work as an intern for Chuck Schumer, and then as a payed intern with a government salary for the United States Department of State within the next few months. I will be putting my graphic design/advertising skills to good use by running a freelance business to help as well. Most likely, I'll also be doing some retail work.

    For at least my first two years of undergraduate education, I will be going to a state school, or a private institution that provides me with extensive scholarship money. I will have to save up money for graduate school as my family has stated that they won't pay for any expenses beyond undergraduate education.

    If I have to take out loans, and I'm strongly against doing so, I want to be sure that I can pay them back in full right away. Acquiring a job right out of my undergraduate schooling will be necessary. I have connections from my internship at my local Democratic Committee. I worked there last year, and plan on working there for years to come. If I work there long enough, I may be able to land a full-time paying job.
     
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    So should the people building the bridges not pay me to draw the bridges first?

    I also teach soft target IED response/prevention to a variety establishments for the DoHS. That doesn't pay nearly as well as drawing however. Am I a parasite for that as well because I am not producing anything tangible?
     
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    The govt isnt constitutionally authorized to bail out anyone or any company. The bail outs were illegal!!!!!
     
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    Well be careful. Don't catch any of Chuck Schumer's stupid. He's not very bright. I remember when Chuckie said this when Obama was pushing for his first slush-fund, er, "stimulus" bill:

    Uh, no Chuckie. The federal budget was almost twice as high after Hoover’s four years as it was when he took office. That contributed to turning the recession into a depression. Way to go, Chuckie!
     
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    Not really. Room and board is not a college cost since the kid will be eating and sleeping somewhere whether he's in college or not. Books are really the only other expense associated with college.
     

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