Utah mom admits trying to sell daughter's virginity for $10K

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  1. Never Left

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    Tru dat!!! :)
     
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    What sort of nonsense is this? The idea of the penitentiary has long since passed. Prison is NOT about penance, and prison does not exist to provide that penance. Prison exists, because people willing to commit crimes, are usually willing to commit multiple crimes. That means if they are allowed to stay free, they will infringe upon the rights of their fellow citizens. Prison exists to protect the citizens of a country from criminals, not to to arbitrarily invent some penance we feel makes up for the naughty thing that person has done. That is just silly.
     
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    What does this even mean? Do we imprison victims? Criminals are punished victims are not, I fail to see how this statement makes sense in any way. It is truly absurd.
     
  4. MrRelevant

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    You do know were talking about capital punishment right?
     
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    Sounds good to me. Just make sure it's done by an American.
     
  6. MrRelevant

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    I hope folks arent naive enough to think some inmates,including convicted murderers,dont thrive in prison. Please, prison isnt the Hilton but its not as horrible as being brutally murdered.Eventually prison life just becomes life.

    Some folks dont deserve to live IMO. I dont want them to have the priviledge of leading even an apparently miserable life.
     
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    That's what I was wondering - w/all the EVIDENCE against this DEPRAVED PIG who calls herself a 'mother' - why the plea deal?!:twisted:

    Dam! Some of these prosecutors and judges just makes me LIVID! This incompetent prosecutor offered her a sweetheart deal and her own 13 yr old kid sure didn't get one when her rotten to the core 'mother' was trying to sell her for sex and money! :twisted:
     
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    Why the plea deal? She's a woman.

    I wonder why she didn't get in touch with Roman Polanski who could get Woody Allen and Whoopie Goldberg on a crusade to save her. Then, Roman the Pedophile could have the daughter.
     
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    What does that mean still? What rights of victims are we ignoring in this scenario? In this scenario the rights of the victims no longer are. They are gone, so all we have to consider is the rights of the criminal, as well as the rights of any future potential victims. That is why we imprison criminals, so that they can not make any new victims. We do that by taking from criminals their right to liberty. That is a HUGE imposition on the rights of a criminal. I still really do fail to see your point.
     
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    Why should anyone care about your opinion of whether some one deserves to live or not. You are not God, and you are in no position to make such a decision. Many people have considered others unworthy of life, and have killed many people we now consider innocent. Yet they genuinely believed the people they were killing were deserving of death. I don't believe that any human is capable of determining such things, I don't know who is and is not deserving of life, nor is it my responsibility nor societies responsibility to make such decisions. Society is only responsible with the task of protecting it's citizens, which is why we imprison criminals, so we can protect our citizens.
     
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    Im not asking you to. Im simply letting you know where I stand.

    The forum is full of folks expressing their opinions including you, right here.

    The prison/legal system is responsible for keeping society safe. Sometime this system requires the removal of a criminal from the society in such a way which he can never parlay it into a comfortable,sustained existence or a possible chance at freedom...IMHO.

    Ask the family of John Maguire if they feel protected
     
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    the "mother" is 32

    the daughter is 13

    do the math, pregnant at 18.

    "mom" has serious issues just like the "parents" of those who want sex changes for their 7 year olds.

    We need a license to drive, to fly a plane, but any moron can have a child
     
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    take the child away and throw the woman in general population and let all those female inmates know what she did to get there. trust me, justice will be swiftly served, and they will probably make her suffer for a good while before they assist her with her suicide.
     
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    18 is an adult?? Are you suggesting only 40 year olds should be allowed to have children?


    This new world economy, is going to create a whole new list of businesses some folks are going to find uncomfortable. The woman is sick but people generally convince themselves to do whatever they need to to get by.


    Get ready it's going to be a bumpy ride.
     
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    That's a weak generalization...

    I've known 18 year olds with kids who were much better parents than some 25-30+ year olds I've known with kids...

    Being pregnant at 18 doesn't indicate any issues, at least not in every case...
     
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    I hope the individual receiving the pictures of the girl is also prosecuted, as I assume he did so willingly.
     
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    Perhaps to spare the child any more trauma.
     
  18. MrRelevant

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    Perhaps...perhaps just to streamline the process to free up space in already jammed packed system? Perhaps to give mom one (or two or three) more chances?
     

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