Europe In Crisis: Should The United States Bail Them Out?

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Yes, here are a few reasons why:

    1) The US caused the world markets to go into recession when their bankers swindled the financial sector with bad mortgages.

    2) Europe had sustainable welfare states until now and their people are in unrest sometimes becoming violent in protests because they are losing their government jobs and forced to make cuts to some of their welfare programs like universal health care.

    3) The IMF was created for such events to protect the world from going into conflict so the American taxpayers have to pay for their misdeeds of deregulated capitalism and for voting for Republicans.
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    That post is so idiotic I can't even bring myself to respond.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    No, the US shouldn't bail them out.

    No one bailed the US out now did they?
     
  4. kilgram

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    No more bailouts.

    And European one way or other we can go out the crisis. And many of the things done are basically ideological, we have many neoliberal governments that have found the perfect excuse to put an end to what they so much detested, the welfare system and the equalitarian societies that Europe had. Just are doing what always they have desired.

    Euorpean people to go out of this crisis, just we need to get rid off of this neoliberals governments, and things will go better again.
     
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    No. Clean up your own backyard first.

    Also, Europe doesn't need a bailout.
    Its with Europe as it is with the US, capitalism has allowed for all kinds of shortcuts for too long, its finally time to bite the bullet for both of us.
     
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    We already bailed Europe out twice........

    ......the last time it cost us 400,000 American lives......to remove a whack job Socialist dictator. All so Europe could embrace that Socialism years later.....

    Bailing out Liberal Slobbery will only encourage more Liberal Slobbery.....

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  7. Johnny-C

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    Maybe the WORLD (all capable nations pitch in for a loan or two) can help them... but the U.S. can't even take care of itself right now.

    We aren't able to do it; it's apparent.
     
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    Are you actually retarded? No seriously, this is too stupid to even be a troll comment.

    To answer the question, no. No and no again. This is their own fault completely for thinking that they can just pull all of their money out of nothing and give it to people for doing nothing. Their welfare states caused this for themselves.
     
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    To add, if they do take a bailout, they'll juts do it again. It will just be another handout to a region that doesn't do a good job. A bailout would totally parallel the welfare handouts they give to their people from their welfare funds.

    If they do collapse, so be it; they might actually learn a lesson or two.
     
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    With what, liberalminority? With magic money that we don't have? Why doesn't Obama just summon up a flying unicorn and we can rub its belly and a genie will pop out of its ass and grant us all endless wealth, healthcare, and world peace. Sound good? Because that's about as realistic.

    Let Europe crumble. The EU was a house of cards built by ignorant people with gullible and childlike beliefs. What is happening now is the inevitable. It's not the grown ups' responsibility to clean up the children's mess. Let them clean up their own mess. They have to grow up sometime.
     
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    Hold on....Europe is in trouble and you want to take my money...and millions of other taxpayers money to bail them out?

    I am no more responsible for the crisis in Europe than I am the U.S. crisis.

    The only reason the consider bailing out anyone is to enrich the "haves" with the "have nots" money so the "haves" can continue in their bad behavior, get richer, and continue to steal from the "have nots".

    Europe should be free...free to solve their own problems... or free to fail.

    And as far as the stock market goes...think about the risk before you lay your money down.
     
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    I am not sure this is credible. I spent a month or so in france in 2007 and wrote on a lot of political forums that Europe was in trouble. While the USA had almost a century of data indicating that Americans could generally afford mortgages of 3-5 times their annual salaries (and were now pressing 7-8 times that number indicating big trouble for America), the Europeans were currently borrowing 10-15 times their annual incomes for homes...pure madness. The same countries having the biggest problems today, Ireland, Spain and Italy, were the biggest abusers then.

    No one has a 'sustainable' welfare state when the numbers simply do not add up.

    The problem is not deregulation but over regulation...can you thing of a single activity that is not either taxed or regulated (or both)???
     
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    Absolutely not. Screw those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.
     
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    It should be noted that the stock markets are embedded into the fabric of the world economy.

    If Europe fails we all fail and go into a deep reccession that is why the US banks had to be bailed out in the first place by both administrations.

    Since the US is the leader of the world economy and was primarily responsible for the world economic downturn, the American taxpayers do have an obligation to bailout european banks.
     
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    I second that. Sometimes I think liberalminority is the fake account of a Ron Paul supporter pretending to be a clueless lefty as a joke. If that's the case, it's pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ed funny.
     
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    China and Japan and the American taxpayers did.
     
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    Of course the US should not bail out Europe. It's not our fault European countries borrowed and spent more than they could afford. It's not our fault European banks purchased too much sovereign debt. Nor is it our fault thy European banks mismanaged their reserves and left themselves undercapitalized. It's most certainly not our job to bail out their irresponsible behavior.
     
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    You are unable to justify your first claim, therefore /thread
     
  19. kilgram

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    Socialist? LOL The desinformation in America arrives to levels without precedents.
     
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    Oh...we have to cut spending. Can't do that. Besides, we're about do for another Wall street bailout, and a catastrophic depression of our own any day now.
     
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    I wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire.
     
  22. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    The US banks were over leveraged and irresponsible as well but they got bailed out because Americans did not want to go into a deeper recession with even more job loss.

    Since this is a world economy if we do not bailout European banks it would lead to recession here and job loss.

    Whatever Americans do affects the world so they are partially responsible for European debts
     
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    As said before.


    Where you gonna get the money?
     
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    Yes!!!!!! starting with Israel, then China and of course don't forget the banks are very important to bail out, because it's what drives our economy and our ability to borrow: where would we be if not for the banks? would you work for no money? banks are the driving force behind our economical energy: if we bail out the banks and the special interests, the rest of the folks are sure to profit down the line...
     

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