What should the Average Median Income Be?

Whether you can pay your bills or not is irrelevant to the law of labor supply and demand. No matter how cruel your life becomes, the world labor market doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*). Nor should it.

Quit trying to sway people with emotional arguments. Economics has no heart, only cold hard numbers.

I would suggest getting 2nd jobs and pooling resources or adopting a spartan lifestyle free of frills and luxuries and be thankful you don't have to live like an African bushman.

 

Again, decency and humanity on one side...cold, hard corporate numbers, and their CEO's on the other.

Which one are you on folks?

 

Compassion and love for a fellow human being cannot change the laws of economic science or make the numbers magically change any more than pretending 2+2=5.

No matter how much compassion you have, compassion cannot make 2+2=5

 

You can if you have enough money...
I'm surprised you didn't already know that.

 

I'm surprised you haven't figured out that America doesn't have enough money.

I take that back, I forgot you can't even figure out that 9/11 wasn't a Government conspiracy.

 

No...never enough, I know. That's why we're in the fix we're in today. (PSSTT....it's called GREED).

No surprise you buy the 9/11 BS either (that's called something else that's not very nice).

 

Corporations are doing so well because of exploiting the desperation of people in foreign countries who weren't smart enough to avoid having 16 kids and thus be in desperation for a job-any and every job-that they can possibly do (even if poorly), and create poor, but cheap, products. As well as forceful government policies.

And now civil war will result from less materially wealthy people in this nation who are envious.

So basically, the three main causes of societies destroying themselves (violence, impulsiveness, and extreme greed), as I just described above, are going to destroy society as we know it. We'll rebuild, and then make the same mistakes most likely.

I can only hope that there is a God and that the rapture does come in 2012, so that human idiocy can come to a permanent halt.

 

Absolutely. +Rep

 

How does the fact that someone has a some kind of electronic gadget indicate that they can afford health care? If they didn't buy a laptop, would they be able to afford to get sick?

The capitalists deserve credit for developing an economy where gadgets are easy to get. But they haven't done this for health care, which is more important than gadgets. They've actually taken medicine that would otherwise be available and put it economically out of reach of many people.

$35k a year will buy you plenty of gadgets but not health care. That's why the number doesn't matter.

 

What about the other things I mentioned? Does the cell service and data plan for the iPads come free now? Betcha if you put that money towards your health care, you can pay for health care easily.

Tell your buddies the dems to stop blocking TORT reform so that way the price of malpractice insurance comes down and the price of health care goes down, and the price of your private insurance goes down. But why would they do that, it would screw out too many liberal lawyers.

Oh, it will buy you health care, if you don't buy the gadgets.

 

Get another part time job. I worked 12 hours a day when I earned less money. If you want to earn more for less time, learn a higher paying trade.

 

On the MEDIA you hear this type of BS, but from the people you hear concerns about our tax money going out to bail out corporations. therefor YOU are the one who needs to explain to people why are you/media twisting the facts?

 

Average Median Wage is a nonstarter. The wide differences in the cost of living in different areas of the country mean that there can be no real AMW. I live in a part of the country where the cost of living is fairly low, so my wages allow me and and my family to live a fairly comfortable life. But those same wages in other parts of the country, say NYC,LA or other major metro areas would relegate me to barely being able to afford an apartment.

 

Man, WTH, liberals act as if everyone is paying out of pocket for hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical care! That is very very few people. A vast minority! A minority so vast, that we should be able to ignore those people comfortably! Its liberals who can't find it in their hearts to allow a few people to fall through the cracks!

I make 30k a year, pay 100 bucks a month towards health insurance and have a 7.5 million dollar cap.

I don't understand where this thinking comes from that health care is "unaffordable". If you have health insurance, you are covered!

Pay the 100 bucks a month and you'll never have to worry about going to the (*)(*)(*)(*) doctor!

Health insurance is not unaffordable in this nation!!

Please tell me what kind of medical care in this nation I would need that would exceed 7.5 million dollars???

This idea that universal access for every single person alive and breathing is simply outrageous! What is important is that MOST, not all, people get the best quality care.

I'm more than willing to let a few million people die of cancer due to unaffordability in order for the other 308 million to have the most advanced medical care in the world from competent physicians that aren't overworked and underpaid.

 

You are only covered until you try to make a claim. Then it's a process of hoop jumping and kowtowing to the insurance company. When your claim is finally approved there more than likely be be a gap to pay out of your own pocket.

 

this questions is far to complicated to answer with just one number as an example 60,000 in Alabama goes alot farther then it would in New York.

 

I think it should be whatever the free market determines when it is free from government and crony capitalism.

 

100k a year, everyone should make the same

 

That is entirely untrue.

I go to the hospital, plunk down my insurance card and that is it, other than a 1500 dollar deductible.

You are making (*)(*)(*)(*) up and lying based on a few odd horror stories. For virtually all Americans with health insurance that is simply not the case.

If the insurance company tried that (*)(*)(*)(*) I could sue them in court for violating the contract. I pay them, they cover me. That is the end of it, except for a few weird cases.

 

Man!! You are good at pointing out the reasonable and practical! Right on!!

 

What do you mean "what SHOULD it be"? Are you saying that the government should implement economic control in order to acheive a certain goal?

I know there are some liberals on this thread who think that America should feel guilty for being so successful and that we should intentionally lower our standard of living so that we can "help other nations who aren't as fortunate as us" (something which doesn't actually work when put into practice, and is not intended to work either). I strongly disagree with that mentality.

So if that's not what you're saying...then the answer is that it should be as high as possible...which will only happen if the free market is allowed to operate.

 

Numerous recent conversations with you have led me to believe otherwise. You support fiat currency, which is the most fundamental aspect of a command economy.

Not for long.

It's good to see that you're starting to come around. Hopefully eventually we can convince you to abandon your fiat currency supporting ways in favor of real money, ie. gold and silver.

 

those weird cases add up, its their job to find ways around paying you for healthcare they are in business to profit