Romney Will Not Defeat Obama, Ron Paul Should Run as 3rd Party?

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Should Ron Paul run as a 3rd party candidate?

  1. Romney can beat Obama so Paul should not run as 3rd party because it would split GOP vote

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  2. Romney can not beat Obama so Paul should just go ahead and run as 3rd party

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    This is what you said.

    Again, do you believe that a state can force it's citizens to buy health insurance?
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    LOL

    Threats :-D
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    You assume some how the repubs own the Ron Paul vote, that if Ron Paul doesn't run the republican nominee gets that vote. If the republican wants that vote he should stand up for individual liberty and constitutional government. It's really that simple. It's arrogant to assume the republican should get Ron Paul's voters when the republican stands for nearly everything those voters despise.
     
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    if you dont like it.... you can move from that state.
     
  5. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Lincoln said it best when he said that states do not have the right to do wrong.

    I support the right of the states to do what the federal govt does not have the Constitutional authority to do, but when the state wants to do something that is against the basis of liberty and freedom in the US, I am opposed.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good idea; let Ron Paul run as a third party; it'll dilute the conservative/republican vote and thus guarantee Obama a second term. .
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    If Romney runs it is guaranteed anyway.

    I will vote for what I believe, not for what or whom the party says I should vote for.
     
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    LOL

    But if the candidate is elected, as Romney or whoever would be.. why wouldn't you support them? That isn't just "the party" talking, that is the majority of the conservatives in America talking.

    Why be a radical rebel in a time when we need every vote to stop the usurper?
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    The republicans are running the same tired me too candidates as usual. America can't handle another big government statist, no matter which party he comes from.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    Why would someone who believes in individual liberty and limited government vote for Romney?
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Obama is the same as Bush, and Romney would be no different.

    The only politician with a legitimate following who stands for what is true conservatism, constitutionally limited govt, is Ron Paul.
     
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    Mormonism is a cult.

    Yeah, I went there.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    That doesn't even begin to factor in to my dislike of Romney.
     
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    Just putting it out there as a reminder to the conservative Christians...and having a little fun.

    John Smithehehehe
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    please....don't
     
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    I don't believe in PC garbage. Republicans talk about Islam every day. I'll make fun of John Smith, a prophet.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I'm asking.

    I do appreciate you posting in my thread, but please stay on topic.

    I want to have a serious discussion about Ron Paul for President.
     
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    ...and what exactly is Ron Paul going to do? One man, in a weak office?

    Will he get our long term debt cut? No, he won't. Because Congress won't do it.

    Will he protect us from the rising dictators around the world like Putin and Hu Jintao? No, because his ideology won't let him.

    Will he support and protect Israel? No, because his own ideology won't let him.

    Will he get the Patriot Act repealed? No, because Congress won't let him.

    People just don't seem to get it that Ron Paul would be powerless in the White House because Congress won't let him do anything. They will stonewall against every "transformational" proposal he would put up.

    It's time for Ron Paul fans to get the picture. Mainstream America does not agree with most of what Ron Paul would do and he would be stonewalled at every turn and powerless.

    Ron Paulites complain about "the two parties" well the fact is the two parties are only doing what the democratic majority of their constituents demand they do and nothing more.
     
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    dum da dum dum dum

    ..southpark
     
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    That's fine, sorry. Ron Paul will not win because he doesn't want to police the world and both parties hate true liberty, don't like the fact that he predicted the mess the establishment created, and are too busy aching for the opportunity for the guy on their team to be blamed for everything while continuing on the same path as the previous guy.

    He could run as a 3rd party and ruin the Republican's chances. An idea that I'm liking more and more as republicans attack the man who wants to abide by the Constitution and restore liberty. I'm sick of Fox News heads, corporatism apologists, and imperialists.
     
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    In other words, cutting off your nose is preferable to holding it. Got it.....:roll:

    RP cannot, and will not win.
     
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    You have a point that the POTUS is not a king, and rightly so.

    However, a POTUS such as Ron Paul would prevent the creeping socialism of our current big government Congress by using the power of veto.

    Also, Paul's foreign policy does allow him to protect us. He just doesn't believe in the neoconservative ideology of regime replacement and nation building under the guise of defense.

    Let's take a look.

    http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, except that I believe Paul has a chance.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    If that's how you define standing for what I believe in... :rolleyes:
     
  25. P. Lotor

    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    That's short term thinking.
     

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