US soldier beats sheep to death with a baseball bat.

Actions speak louder than words. There is only so much fundraising one can do. One must prioritize between poor children and dumb beasts. Do you do fundraising for poor kids? If not, close your pie hole.

 

Prioritizing between helping the poor and bludgeoning an animal to death????

Let's see .. what are my choices here?

 

There's lots of bad things that happen in the world. Do you worry about each of them?

 

If he had to kill the animal as part of his duties, and had he done so humanely (shot it in the head - for example,) I doubt anyone would be showing concern. Animals are killed for food daily, but much depends upon how this is done. Australia recently discontinued all live animal exports to Indonesia, because their methods of slaughter were cruel by Australian standards. This is as it should be.

It is not my perceptions of bravery and cowardice which are open to question, and it is not a brave man who batters a defenceless creature to death.

 

Tell it to the judge............

 

That's a pretty cryptic answer my dear. Care to elaborate?

 

I do, any that come to my attention... what do you do, prioritise them and only worry about those of a certain priority. What scale do you use, where do you draw the cut off line, how do you determine which is "worthy" of your concern?

We each are individuals, some give money, some give time, some don't give anything. On average most things are the concern of someone, so in the wash they all get looked at. Some get too large a slice of the pie, for instance in some countries more is spent on animal welfare then children's. (across the board spending)

If you don't think it's right to do what is done, but don't think it warrants a thread then don't comment, go to a thread you feel is more relevant. If however you see nothing wrong with it, then you need to seek help.

 

As I said earlier.. a judge put a man in Atlanta in prison for 4 years for stomping a cat.

I think you are stubborn and took a position too early and without thinking.

Slaughtering an animal that you plan to eat.. is NOT the same as beating one to death on a lark... That is common to Christians, Muslims and Jews.

 

that is a good post but imo the act of war itself is cowardice whether by her majesty or bush majesty and it is the fault of the people and their leaders for putting these men in those positions

so in conclusion it is not the soldier who is a coward here for beating a defenseless animal but the state and the people of that state who pay and force him to act this way

 

I suppose you think that military training and discipline FORCES someone to bludgeon a NON hostile sheep to death?

Do you ever use your brain?

 

I like your posts. In fact, I look for them. Don't personalize our exchanges. We are going to be having many of them. Just express your ideas and bottle up you emotions for purposes of our many exchanges to come. Things will go smoother when you don't personalize disputes.

What do I do? I prioritize. Unless cruelty to animals happens in my presence I don't invest any energy in fighting it. My time, money and expertise goes toward humans, not dumb beasts.

 

If beating a defenceless creature to death were part of his duties as a member of the US military, and if he were subject to discipline for not acting in that way; I might be inclined to award you the point. As things stand, I doubt either of those conditions apply, so I must respectfully disagree.

 

Thanks for your opinion. What I don't like is post-modern western pretensions of moral superiority when such superiority doesn't exist.

I have no problem with the conditions under which the Han Chinese keep their animals. The Han don't value the lives of those animals. They keep them for exploitation. Exploitation is done in a manner which is the epitome of what post modern westerners would consider cruel.

For example they keep brown bears in little cages with a shunt up the bear's bile duct so they can extract the bile. The bears live that way for their entire lives. Don't anthropomorphize animals. It is just another sign of post modern western decadence.

 

Well. For one thing, the goat is dead beforehand, and several things are done to the carcass to make it usable for play. Kind of like a football... but not as pretty.

 

the solider is programmed to be a killer, this was just a side effect of that illness created by a military paid for by its people

he should not be condemned or punished for the result of being sick but treated and possibly rehabilitated

 

Some people are sick animals. That is the stuff of serial killers.

 

All people that eat meat are just the same... Get off the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing high horse. The vegans that should be the only (*)(*)(*)(*)s that complain, left this alone, figure it out...

 

Speaking to a vegan sooooooo.

 

Who said anything about them eating ? Eid al Adha is a remake of the Abraham/God thing with the goat or sheep as a sacrifice. The eating part is nothing but a ruse to rationalize out and out animal cruelty. My Muslim ex-neighbors don't eat the goats they kill. They bludgeon them just like the dirtbag in the video and then leave the carcasses out in the field where they're consumed by cats and vultures. I even have video of that.

Only difference between last year (when the cops came around) and this year is now they do it indoors, in a large shed.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/216573-does-anybody-know-who-creep.html

 

As I do yours. You asked a personal question, true it was not of me directly, but in a forum such as this it is done often.

I do not go looking for things to worry about, enough comes along without searching. I agree with you except for one point, anything that comes to my attention gets a response, not just cruelty to animals that happens in my presence. I too prioritise my time, money and expertise towards humans, not dumb beasts (except for my bluey).

 

This is obviously a huge "(*)(*)(*)(*) the US GI" campaign. Would it have been hard to post if up as something that didn't mention their military status? Oh indeed, it would have, but that didn't happen... good for you if your a vegan, but if you intrude into my life of meat eating, we will have serious problems...

 

Ya, I don't care what you or anyone else does. Beat them to death then eat them. Doesn't affect me but clubing an animal to death is the way of the serial killer.

 

The monstrosity of the Chinese furring industry is well know. I have seen several vids where they actually pull the skins off still living and conscious animals.

Anyone who buys (*)(*)(*)(*) from them is disgusting imo, especially since you can buy synthetic fur these days thats just as good.

 

He isn`t the terminator. People can, and have, gone through far worse than military training and come out human, and fairly functional on the other side.

If he has a problem that originated from being in the military then it should be treated, otherwise he is just another one of the many sicko`s out there that are beyond helping.

 

This is going to seriously damage US relations with New Zealand.