Is Obama an Islamist or a Fool ?

Your education is "focused on the Middle East"?

Then take note of this: you've been educated to one political and ideological side. It is next to impossible to be educated in US halls of higher learning on the topic of the ME without being politically brainwashed, because nearly all of how it is presented would be based upon the prism of the presenter(s).

Translated: when you vehemently disagree, to the point of being annoyed.

Which is often.

There was no argument in there. I and others used the term "Islamist" in a very specific way, and you and others took issue with it in the form of denying the validity of my use of the term.

I then pointed out that my use of the term is so widespread that it actually made the Urban Dictionary. That is all I had to say on the point.

Yeah. Not a fan of your appreciation.

No, you have other recourse. You don't choose to take those avenues. Usually, your avenue involves explaining to us how smart and educated you are, which is why I lampooned the response.



And GateWatcher is butthurt because he didn't think I responded to his post, when I very clearly did. Wah.

 

I have just one question. What the hell are you talking about ? Make that one question more. Have you gotten me mixed up with someone else ? In any case, make it clear what you want, or flake off.

 

Are you retarded, or this some kind of ploy to force me to spend time foraging through the thread to come up with the 4 or 5 times that I've refuted your lamebrain notion about the military. You think the other people here haven't seen what I've REPEATEDLY said about your dumbass military comment ? See post # 225.
Trying to make a fool out to yourself today ? I'm not interested in watching that. It's time for you to find someone else to talk to. You already blew your cool pretending to know more than me about Islamization only to discover, with the Quiz, that like Margot, on that subject, next to me, you are just being born. I think you've got a TV show to go watch now. Flake off, MR QUIZ ZERO.

 

By this line of reasoning, no one can learn anything without being 'politically brainwashed'.

 

I am one is works for the protection of the American people, that's who I am.
And you blew your assessment of my position. More than once in this thread, I noted that Obama's proper course of action would/should have been to pressure Mubarek into accomodating the Egyptian people's needs, and not be the greed freak that he was, or the tyrant either. He could have held power and continued to keep the Muslim Brotherhood at bay, but Obama doesn't seem to have found that route the one he wanted to pursue.

 

From this thread:

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Originally Posted by protectionist
He isn't a terrorist sympathizer. But he is a sympathizer with the Islamist cause of creating a worldwide Islamic caliphate.

Now, do you seriously believe that? Seriously??? I mean, I know there are "internet people who believe all kinds of wacko stuff but Obama promoting the creation of a world caliphate? I thought they took Glenn Beck off the air?

What else could be said of a guy who backs the ousting of Mubarek,

After reading that, I'm wondering if an intelligent, reasonable discussion will be possible here. Let's assume so. Obama did WHAT exactly to "back" the protestors in Egypt? Planes? Drones? Slingshots?

who did a great job of keeping the Muslim Brotherhood out of power in Egypt by banning them.


Mubarak banned EVERYONE he saw as a threat. He also persecuted Christians on more than a few occasions. Does that Make Obama a "Christianist" too? Jus' sayin'

In contrast, Obama not only has aided the Mubarek ouster, he has also made no effort to ban the Brotherhood in America (as they should be), and he has even made overtures to have talks with them, and accept them as a valid political organization.
I'm not sure if I would go do far as to call him an Islamist, but if he's not, he's as close to it as anyone could ever be. He's too darn friendly with the Muslim Brotherhood, and even has some members of it in his administration. if I remember right.

So then Bush was an Extreme Fundamental Islamist because he ousted the Sunni leader and put in a puppet government of Shi'a s who are now lockstep with Iran and Syria? I mean, Bush eliminated the single biggest obstacle to the formation of what has now become the largest Muslim Fundamentalist Alliance in the Midlle East, since Salladin.
Based on your logic, you MUST agree with that whole-heartedly, right?


That post. And the one after that.

 

It would be much easier if they just said I hate muslims and stop living in their own fantacyland of ignorance.

 

No I must not agree with that, whole-heartedly, or any other way. Wrong. And I am not required to agree with anything of the rest of you're loaded illogical questions either. Bush was also way too friendly with Islamists and i recite a litany of his wrongdoings from having the convicted terrorist Alamoudi over for dinner at the White House to all the Muslim sensitivity training classes he authorized the Muslim brotherhood group CAIR to give to the FBI, to lots of other things. But Bush wasn't raised in Islamist schools as Obama was. And he didn't really show the affinity for the Muslim Brotherhood that Obama does. Bye now.

 

LOL! "Bye Now" (code for 'Oh sh1t! This guys' about to whoop my butt! I better Cut & Run!).

It's all good. I love that you consider the former head of counter-terrorism under HW Bush and the guy who warned us about OBL and 9/11 in advance - a "Secret Jihadist"

Another "internet person". Wait wait.

Is Obama a Muslim?
Was he not born in the USA?
Did Saddam have WMD's?
Was 9/11 an inside job?

 

And?

When it comes to history, that is true: history is written by the victor.

 

I find this paradoxical.

Do you consider yourself to be 'politically brainwashed'?

 

Yeah, I seriously believe it. And you shouldn't change the wording from sympathizing to "promoting" as if I had said that. I didn't you did. So don't go putting words in my mouth.

And what did Obama do to back the protestors in Egypt. I just answered that in a post about an hour ago. I've been on this thread for 7 hours, and at this point, I'm not going to do any unnecessary thread work. Look it up, or are you one of those lazy bums who comes floating in here late in a thread and expects everyone to adapt to his know nothingness ?

Who cares who else Mubarek banned ? The thread is about Obama, Mubarek, and the Muslim Brotherhood. Please stay on topic. Bush isn't the topic either. Want to talk about Bush ? The New Thread button isn't too far away - you'll find it.

 

If you want to debate, or talk, or discuss anything with me, you have to make yourself clear, OK ? I don't talk to drunken slobs, or loons flying on 3 psychedelics, or nerds with marbles in their mouth. If I have to talk about not being able to understand you (because you're somewhat unintelligible), then I have to ask you to please leave my thread, and come back when you've cleaned your your act. And I still don't know (or much care) whatever the hell it is you're talking about ( if it could be called "talking").

 

Go to post # 245 & 246. Read the whole post as if I was talking to you, and go ahead and check out the Quiz, and maybe you'll then stop living in your fantasyland of ignorance, but at least you'll no longer be ignorant of how ignorant you are.

 

Do you think Saddam had WMDs ? LOL. I'm gonna have a little fun here.

 

You consider this

A response to that line of reasoning!! If that is your response, then my response is

 

And my response is simply > there need not be any response.

 

In answer to your question, - the President is an idealouge, who is mainly involved with the idea of equality.

He made a mistake in endorsing the protesters in Egypt before finding out exactly who they were. Now it appears that the Brotherhood will win 45% of the seats giving them a majority over 2 other parties.

 

Your argument is that the Muslim Brotherhood will intimidate the Egyptian military into acquiescence, and not the other other way around!! That argument need not be taken seriously. Is the Italian Mafia similarly going to intimidate the US military? It is a silly argument. And even if it were possible, it is highly speculative. Your response to my excellent argument, is that the Muslim Brotherhood could intimidate the army into giving them power, but I don't see why that isn't just possible now then? So as I said, you still haven't addressed my argument. At least certainly not in a coherent manner.

 

You're easily angered, aren't you? Sorry. Didn't realize you were so emotional.
So let's see.
Your points are:

1. By not offering military or other support to a Muslim (Mubarak), Obama helped Muslims.

2. Hmm. The topic seemed to also involve Egypt, the removal of Mubarak and how Obama NOT helping that Muslim Leader keep control of a country that is 90% Muslim, somehow proves Obama is SYMPATHETIC (don't want to upset you again!) toward the cause of Islam taking over the world! (LOL!).

You are a funny little man!

Oh and sure Saddam had WMD's. We gave them to him. But they were inert long before we invaded.

Ya know, I don't get to see such real life whackjobbery often so let's do keep this going, shall we?

Oh, and you dodged my other questions while cherry picking the one you liked. We don't have to discuss them, I just want to see how deeply you stare into the spinning circle.
Is Obama a Muslim?
Foreign Born?
Was 9/11 an inside job?

 

It will forever live as one of the major US Presidents' mistakes. Hopefully, it will not cause a great deal of death and destruction, but I fear that is exactly where it's headed, and it will primarily (as in all wars) involve the young people (in Egypt and Israel) who are least to blame for bringing it about.

 

I didn't say "intimidate", you said that. As for your argument, it is highly speculative. But hey, as Jimmy Carter once said "everybody's free to speculate."

 

1. You don't have anything to dodge.

2. Your number 1 statement is dismally wrong.

3. So is your 2.

4. I didn't cherry pick anything, but you already knew that.

5. How do you know Saddam's WMDs were inert ? How could you know that ?

 

The USA's myopic support of dictators and murderous leaders because that leader performed a particular service for the USA, without regard for the horrors that leader visited upon upon his people has built an enormous reservoir of hate for the USA around the world.

The policy is ultimately a dead end, as well. When the stranglehold of horror that the USA supported is finally broken, that country, like Iran, becomes an enemy until whole generations of people who lived under the monster pass on.

 

We all know you hate America, and if it makes you feel even better, we will annoint you # 1 America-hater in the world. Now would you please go away ?