And Judas sold Christ for 30 pieces of silver. And Solomon had some 700 wives. No, not a metaphor. But neither is it required of the Church. Uh...do you see now? Quantrill
They can't have tax exempt status and then discriminate. No one asked them to marry anyone - the engaged couple is not allowed to go because they are an inter-racial couple. She can go, her parents can go, but not him. He (as a black man) COULD go, if was wasn't being all uppity and in a relationship with a white woman.
I have seen objections to the state encouraging children to pray in a specific way. And I have seen objections to public resources being used to display religious symbols. But what I most emphatically have not seen is secularists "crying Separation of church and state when someone wants to pray in a public place somewhere", as you put it. This I have not seen. Ever. As a secularist, I don't have a problem with someone else praying in public. What's more, I know plenty of other secularists and I'd be flabbergasted to discover that any of them would object to another citizen praying in public. The idea that secularists, as a group, object to other people praying in public is, to put it mildly, absurd.
Hmmm, on second thought - mebbe it ain't such a hot idea afterall... Pastor To Ask KY Church To Overturn Ban On Interracial Couples 2 Dec.`11 - A tiny, all-white Appalachian church in rural Kentucky that voted to bar interracial couples from its congregation will be asked to overturn its decision, its pastor said Friday.
Enough of the whining bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Its simple, if they want to impose a discriminatory policy, their tax-exempt status should be revoked. Actually all churches should have to pay taxes anyway.
No what is disgusting is that some, think they have the right to tell these people how they will or will not worship their God. If they don't want to worship God with interracial couples who the hell are any of you to tell them different? If you don't like the way they worship fine, go worship elsewhere. It's not as if these people are telling anyone that they can't go elsewhere to worship. As far as the racist charge, isn't it odd how we are supposed to condemn these people as being racist's, yet when it comes to Obama sitting in a church which preach's, among other things that if "God is not for the black man, and against the white man, then God should be killed" for over twenty years, when it comes to Obama being married by a preacher who preach's such crap, when it comes to Obama calling that preacher his "spiritual mentor" and comparing him to being a "uncle" then we are all supposed to conveinently ignore it, and not accuse or think that Obama might be a racist. The hypocrisy in that sir, is what is disgusting. Not these people's exercise of their God given rights as enumerated by the first amendment. Oh that's right, we no longer have a first amendment, unless it benefits the liberal left and it's own political aims and agenda.
Hogwash. God Hates plenty. IE: God HATES sin. And just a word to the wise, I wouldn't try to dispute that, I can post the scripture from all three of the worlds greatest religions which claim that about God. But Oh, that's right, this FACT about God, that God hates certain things, might not tickle some ears, so we won't preach that.
Ohhh now that's some rebuttal there yes sir. One can't help but note, you address nothing, and make no points of FACT to refute any points made, such as the point that we all have a first amendment God given right to worship God as we see fit, so long as we don't harm anyone else physically to do so. You claim to be so outraged by the all the "hate" and yet insist that everyone should "hate" others because of the exercise of their first amendment rights. So long as they aren't Barack Obama or his fat America hating wife. And yet you presume to talk about "crap". I'll tell you what is "crap" the hypocrisy displayed by those who would ignore the origins, and spiritual foundation of Barack Obama, all the while condemning others for being "racist", that is what is "crap". But then again, all hypocrisy is "crap" now isn't it.
I just find it hard to take a moral stance seriously when it is wrapped in such obvious contradiction. I mean, we're all hypocrites to some degree. I don't know anybody who is 100% consistent all the time. Myself included. But if I had Charlie Manson in my avatar and posted about abortion being murder, I wouldn't expect anybody to take me seriously.
No we should not. The word of God as found in the Bible is what should define what hate is. As well as what God is. If one is a Christian that is. First Corinthians: 38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds Genesis: 24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. But we are all supposed to ignore that, it doesn't suit our own tickling ears and modern man made notions. Who the hell are any of you to dispute what God has said is good?
The Christian believer. So you start a thread condemning others for their own Christian beliefs, and the way in which they have decided to practice their belief. Which is their right to do, in a free constitutional republic such as ours. Yet obviously, given the post above, know nothing about the Christian faith. Um, yeah ok, I'll take that, and your insistence that we condemn these people in Kentucky seriously. NOT. Next thread...
They are not free to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Which is what every single "christian" republicans tries to do. They can take their theocracy and shove it, we are secular always have been and always will be.
An argument can be made, and proven, that the Reverend Wright doesn't teach a Christian theology and doctrine to begin with, and thus isn't a Christian to begin with. As his Black Liberation theology is one that is not found in the Bible but rather is found in the ramblings of a one James Cone. Just as is the case probably, with this church in Kentucky as well. But why point that out, it detracts from attacking the entire Christian faith.
the bible wasn't written by god, it was written by middle eastern people who were experiencing delerium from the desert heat
They aren't "imposing" their belief on anyone. To say that they are is to imply that there is some right for you to be in their privately owned building to start with. There is no right to tell them how to worship, there is no right for someone to insist they can be in their privately owned property. As for this nation being "secular" such a statement is wholly, historically and factually ignorant. The founding of this nation was anything but "secular". See the many writings of the founders, including the Declaration of Independence which makes several references to God and the creator. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=165580 See opening Congress with a prayer. See Washington's addition to the POTUS oath of office.
Sorry we are not a christian nation. We have no national religion, nor is the government allowed to legislate based on religious beliefs. Get over it.