Are Palestinians an 'invented' people?

South Sudan wasn't invaded by foreigners... Those Sudanese always lived there.

 

Lol. This will be good when you explain how terrible it is when even Sudan, as in North Sudan, welcomed the South into the UN.

Terrible eh? How do you answer that? Should I quote your own link?

Nothing personal about pointing out the paucity of your position.

Ill answer any question im asked directly. On any subject. Will you answer this one?

Ill guess you wont. The answer is too uncomfortable.

 

The law is enforceble as soon as they agree to its application. As in the examples given.

Everyone cares about the losers. They matter. An awful lot. Tibet is a great example = even after years its cause is not forgotten.

No one freed the blacks in South Africa, after years of opporession where no one helped then one day things changed. The arab spring too. The same future is in store for Tibet. All you need is the will of its people.

The Abos of australia where recently given extensive rights over their lands.

Youre on the side of disorder and bigotry. Even when they try so hard to throw off their dictators you hate them. You should be ashamed.

 

Except when the major power don't play by them. You can't do anything about that.

Nobody care really. What you have is a tiny fringe left wing movement that believe that Tibet was a paradise before the chinese invaded. They tend to gloss over the feodal system and slave labor that was present there up until the begining of the 20th century and the abject poverty.

Yah, you forgot the whole global boycott of product from SA pushed by among others the USA... A superpower... Who is boycotting China again?

The same way we gave our native more right. They can fish and hunt anytime without permit, but we still controll the natural ressources and we throw them a bone from time to time to shut them up.

They are replacing dictators with despotic regime... whoopy... what an improvement...

 

You talk of Israel's security being threatened but you don't have any regard for the security of Palestine.

Borders make no difference, give Palestinians justice and Israel will have security. If we don't, they won't.

 

What palestine? It doesn't exist... never did...

 

So if that is the case, why is Nosferax denying 2 million "Israelis" on the West Bank (because if they aren't Palestinians they must be Israelis if you are incorporating their land inside Israel's borders) the right to vote and form political parties inside the Israeli political system? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either Palestinians are Palestinians or they are Israelis who aren't Jewish, like 20% of the current recognized citizens of Israel. Make your mind up and get back to us.

 

It's terrible that the North forced the South to acquire its territory through force instead of peacefully ceding it to them decades ago. That probably would have saved what, a million lives? How convenient of you to overlook that detail.

As for "welcoming" the South into the UN, the North really had no choice in light of the fact that the South's forces controlled that territory and al-Bashir & Co. had a new genocide to perpetrate in Darfur. Evidently, the genocidal psychopaths in Khratoum realized they couldn't fight a two-front war. Good for the South Sudanese, bad for the Darfuris.

You're only kidding yourself, creation.

Asking me if I'm a "silly troll" (i.e., someone who doesn't agree with your position) or a "decent respectable poster" (someone who agrees with you) is getting personal. It's also the last refuge of people who have lost an argument/debate.

Off to the mirror, then. When you're capable of dispensing with the ad hominem get back with me.

 

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Neither did Israel.

 

ANd by "justice" you mean the extermination of all Jews and the state of Israel? Sorry, no deal.

 

Of course it exists, always has. The land has always been there, it has always had people living and working on it.

Statements like yours are the reason Israel has no security, first Palestinians are robbed of their land then you try to steal their identity.

If you deny Palestinians justice then don't gripe about Israel not having security.

 

I haven't said anything about the extermination of any Jews let alone all of them.

As for the state of Israel, that hasn't even existed much more than 60 years.

I see nothing wrong with Jews or a state of Israel, what needs to be eliminated is the Zionist regime which rules Israel then the Israeli and the Palestinian can live together in peace. As usual it is not people which are the problem, it is doctrine and the Zionist doctrine is by definition racist and supremacist.

When Israel stops stealing Palestinian land and America stops vetoing justice they can find a peaceful solution but not until then.

 

So peados we cant catch also dont have any law applying to their actions?

Um no, everyone knows, not just a left wing fringe, about the cause of Tibet and they agree with. The prob you have is that you tell us the cause doesnt exist because we cant invade China.
Ah yes, they werent civilised enough for you were they? Not modern enough. Just as well they invaded by the same people that caused the starvation of millions.

Yah is a word?
Anyway, the unrest against apartheid started long before sanctions. By schoolchildren. Perhaps they shouldnt have bothered since no laws apply to their case as long as no enough are interested eh?

The we you refer to have no other choice. The we you refer cant just leave any longer. The bone you refer to is the best of a bad situation and reflects the recognised wrongs done.

Whoopy do indeed, its a long hard road. Sorry its not quick enough for you. The germans replaced the Kaiser, and later ended up with Hitler. Then later they came of age, but you dont give the arabs the benefit of the doubt because you think at heart they are mere savages.
Never mind the hundreds of thousands of brave people that have fought and died for something better.

 

He couldnt possibly be worse than our current president who's clear agenda gleefully included starting a class war. With that bein said he's a terrible candidate.

Its is true, Palestinians invented their identity to promote divisiveness ironically enough,which allows for eternal "resistance" against a foe they can not beat yet cannot live with,that in turn provides the backdrop for faux righteousness in defense of their agression and terrorism.

 

Read the documents.. They have been called Palestinians for a long long time.

Here they are on line at Yale Law School.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/mideast.asp

 

Im not supporting the North, Im supporting the application of international law and the intervention of UN which uses it.

Youve just condemned the south for taking its own land by violence and pleibicite. But Ill guess now that youll actually support the application of international law in the case of Darfur.

Ah yes, what was your 'hearing impediment comment all about then? A respectable and reasonable exposition of your case was it?

I dont think Ill bother. If you cant even tell me that you intend to make respectful comment to other posters and intend only good discussion whats the point?

 

lol...doesnt matter what theyve 'been called'....its their as the wind blows attitude towards the importance of this identity.

Why havent they always called themselves Palestinians?

 

All the Zionists also called them Palestinians..

Are you afaid of the documents?

Here they are on line at Yale Law School.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/mideast.asp

 

Afraid?

These are the same documents I cite all the time. These dont really help your cause. The notion of a nationalistic Palestinian identity is a new thing, relatively speaking,as pointed out by Arab leadership in the past,was only created as a tactical manuver.

Maybe you should read them then explain how theyre relevant here.

 

Palestine had a Muslim majority up to the mid 1930s.. so that would have been their identity..

They weren't Polish Jews................

 

you are correct, MrRelevant.

There is no state of "Palestine". There has never been a state of "Palestine".

Palestinians are Arabs who once lived in Jordan before they were licked out of the country by King Hussein for attempting to take over the legitimate government.

 

Why? They didnt care they lived in "Palestine",generally . Did these folks call themselves Palestinians in 1930? The idea of a Palestine separate from Syria is once again a relatively recent notion. Many if not most considered themsleves Syrians.

 

Here are 57 photos taken in the 1880s of Lebanon, Syria, Palestine and Egypt.

http://almashriq.hiof.no/general/700/770/779/historical/pcd0109/pcd0109.html

 

You havent addressed your prior irrelevant link and you offer up more?

 

They were called Palestinians and there was an Arab majority from about the middle of the first century until 1948..