War with Iran - ignoring the problem is not a solution!

War with Iran - ignoring the problem is not a solution! and war mongers are the problem. war mongers and their debt. war mongers do not know religion, party affiliation, race or color. they exist among us all. they are a tiny minority, but they deceive - they seek control of the media, they profit from conflicts - when you watch presidential debates on television all you see is them accusing each other, but no solutions. they destroy nation after nation. they are within America.

 

A solution to what?

 

Solution to our problems, which they claim to be Middle east, but it is becoming more and more obvious that the problem is financial.

 

And who are these 'warmongers?' Tell us who are the main 'warmongers' in the Obama administration and explain how their 'warmongering' manifests itself please. Go ahead.

For anyone else interested, here's some of Winston Churchill's warning about appeasement:

"In their loss of purpose, in their abandonment even of the themes they most sincerely espoused, Britiain, France, and most of all, because of their immense power and impartiality, the United States, allowed conditions to be gradually built up which led to the very climax they dreaded most. They have only to repeat the same well-meaning, short-sighted behavior towards the new problems which in singular resemblance confront us today to bring about a third convulsion from which none may live to tell the tale."

And this is what he had to say about modern warfare in 1929, 16 years before the nuclear age:

"Mankind has never been in this position before. Without having improved appreciably in virtue or enjoying wiser guidance, it has got into its hands for the first time the tools by which it can unfailingly accomplish its own extermination. That is the point in human destinies to which all the glories and toils of men have at last led them. They would do well to pause and ponder upon their new responsibilities. Death stands at attention, obedient, expectant, ready to serve, ready to shear away the peoples en masse; ready, if called on, to pulverise, without hope of repair, what is left of civilization. He awaits only the word of command. He awaits it from a frail, bewildered being, long his victim, now - for one occasion only - his Master."

Citations, The History of The Second World War Vol I

The theme of Vol I is "How the English-speaking peoples through their unwisdom, carelessness and good nature allowed the wicked to rearm."

 

Ignoring the problem is, for the USA. The USA has depleted it's military for the past 10 years. There is only so many deployments a soldier can do before he decides to get out. The beef with Iran is between the countries in that area, and they sould be the ones taking care of that crap, not the USA. If only politicians would stop sucking up to the isreal backed jewish broadcast media the USA would be able to take care of Americans, and not the rest of the Arab World. It is the Arab world and the Arab religion that needs to deal with whatever they have with isreal, not the USA.

If Afganistan does not break the economy of the USA, another 10 or 20 year war with iran will, Why, because it will cost trillions andtrillions of bucks that the USA just doesn't have. And with the rest of the investing world (who have money), not investing in US military defense stock or US T-bills, the USA will continue to owe the weathy baks of the world trillions in just the interest. And you will pay for it.

We all know this hype of nuclear weapons is the same tactic the Buuuush, Cheney, wolfowitz used on the stupid American people. And they learned that Americans are so stupid, they can use it again to make massive money of the taxpayer. After all, most americans are obedient, gulible and fearful cowards that will use the military to help them sleep better at night.

Oooo, iran may have nuke, Ooooo, I'm so afraid, they must be "terrorist", ooo, I can't sleep, untill, we sacrifice the lifes of others to settle my fear. Ooooo, pleas help me dick cheney, make the bad terrorist go away.

 

People who keep pushing us to war with Iran: mostly people on the media - the same ones who then talk against the war mongers to regain credebility, the ones who claim to be on the side of the peace.

 

You got that right.
The media has great control over the actions of politicians, and if the media, and the corporations who profit off a war pay the media to hype it. the simple minded public will buy into it. that is why religion is a destructive manipulation, it causes people to obey and accept crap on hearsay, and not question the media and authority to oppose their corrupt actions.

 

We've been at war with Iran since 1979. But regardless, by whom? Who is "pushing us to war with Iran?"

Which people? How does this "pushing" manifest itself?

I don't know those ones either. Let's stick to the warmongers. Who are the warmongers? That's the question.

No more 'ones' - stick to the question please. Who are these warmongers?

 

You do know we LEFT Iraq right?

 

America's problems don't stem from the Middle East bur from internally.

 

I don't even own television, but I have my homepage set to news site to be able to keep up with events, and still it is very obvious that the MEDIA is pushing us to war. how many times should I say it? I will just make it in bold red and underlined. that one word is the answer. special interest controlled mass MEDIA

Conflicts and controversy is in their interest. not solutions. they profit from wars. they've become our eyes and ears to the outside world. and even though many of us do not believe them, masses of voters still do, and they are betraying our country. look at the political candidates not just now the GOP (minus Ron Paul) but back in 2008 the democrat prostitutes. they are all identical filth. they need to be exterminated in the name of America the great. they are parasites, selected parasites. who puts them on there? THE MEDIA - special interest controlled media. those who control the media, have always and will always control governments: there is no exception to this rule.

 

Exactly. the enemies of America are already in Washington. enemies of America control the media.

 

No more 'ones' - stick to the question please. Who are these warmongers?[/QUOTE]

The mass media, the companies that own these mass media, the government that allows a lot of controversial, not-proved info to be released, the IAEA who failed the necessary diplomacy to continue the revissions, the lack of opportunity to send independent inspectors to the nuclear facilities, etc....

By the way, it's a good moment to look back and see what these people has done up to now. Still ignoring the effects of Gulf War I and II, etc?. Captain Joyce Riley has been years showing evidence of USA selling bioweapons to Saddam prior to war, plus many other urgent matters to investigate:

http://www.all-natural.com/riley.html

I point out the matter of how the USA administration never acted against companies that were suplying weapons, conventional, biological, or otherwise, in all these cases:

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"Bush and Clinton "Justice Departments" Refuse to Prosecute Bioweapon Supply Companies Under the Trading With the Enemy Act
Now, I want to show you this. It appeared in Media Bypass recently. It was January 1996. In this issue, Sarah McClendon, who was a wire service person in Washington, has kind of seen the light. She is in her 80's now, but she follows every story. I want you to see what she has written, because she was a "government person" beforehand. And now, I will tell you, that she has truly "changed sides."

She writes, "Proof is building up stronger than ever that big U.S. corporations [Editor Note: The U.S. Government is also a corporation] made the weapons that Saddam Hussein used to kill American soldiers in the Persian Gulf War. These corporations also provided the chemical and biological weapons that the Iraqis used to make thousands of surviving soldiers ill. Both the Bush and Clinton Administration Justice Departments agreed not to prosecute for TRADING WITH THE ENEMY."

[Editor Note: Now, this is an interesting coincidence, because it is exactly what Prescott Bush and the Rockefellers did before and during World War II, when they materially and financially supported the buildup and creation of Nazi Germany, and later Communist Russia, to create extreme forms of National Socialism and International Socialism, in order to anger the planetary population, who would stamp these forms of socialism out and make way for International Corporate Capitalism, which is Global Socialism, or otherwise known as the New World Order. Any good student of history will find the prosecutions levied for Trading With the Enemy on U.S. companies during this period in history. Don't believe any of this? Do your homework! The same people have been at it behind the scenes for the last 60 years doing the same thing. When you then see Operation Paperclip and Project 63 in action for 30 years . . . . . well, welcome to the covert 4th Reich in disguise. All the research is in Matrix III Volume Two, of what they are doing, how they are doing it and why. Read it and understand. Everything is there.]

You have heard about the Trading With the Enemy Act? Guess who has really been trading with the enemy? Now they are being openly accused of it. The Media Bypass article continues: "The buildup of Iraq's weapons was paid for by U.S. taxpayers, and this business was conducted for years before the Persian Gulf War, and after it started. Such trading with the enemy is tantamount to TREASON. Since when did treason become a civil case? Federal Judge Schub of Atlanta, before whom the case came during the Bush era, said in a phone call to Attorney General Janet Reno, that "anyone who believes there was not grounds for prosecution, has to believe in never-never land."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

Or maybe would be good to remember the fight of Michael Scheuer, who knows better who are the war-mongers:

http://non-intervention.com/463/on-...rmed-rebellion-dr-rand-paul-and-israel-first/

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My position has nothing to do with disliking Israel Firsters because they are Jews (many are not); disliking Armenian Americans because they are Christians; disliking Indian Americans because they are Hindus, etc. It has every thing to do with my belief that these citizens have no business trying to manipulate the U.S. government into intervening in other peoples’ wars or disputes.

Many people immigrate to America to avoid wars, tyranny, or other troubles in their homelands, and part of the contract implicit in their acceptance as U.S. citizens is that their primary loyalty belongs to the United States and not the country they fled. If this means anything, it means that the wars and disputes they left behind are no longer their wars and disputes, and so they ought not be seeking to get the rest of their new countrymen involved in them. If they cannot make this clean break — which is hardly a high cost given the benefits of U.S. citizenship — they ought to go back to the wars and disputes they left, fight to their heart’s content, and leave the rest of us in peace.

At the moment, Israel-First U.S. citizens are eager to involve the United States in a war with Iran, just as they promoted (caused?) the U.S. war on Iraq. This morning, for example, Israel First’s wholly own subsidiary known as the U.S. Congress passed additional unilateral sanctions on Iran’s economy. Sanctions, of course, are acts of war that the mighty use against weaker states who cannot respond. Sanctions also are often used to provoke the weaker state to shoot first so the ensuing war can be blamed on those who were sanctioned.

The sanctions and other actions promoted by the Israel Firsters are clearly meant to drag 300 million Americans into a war with Iran because Israel’s current government wants such a war. I oppose this because we — the United States — have no need for a war with Iran. We have Iran contained militarily and economically, and Tehran does not threaten us unless we attack it first.

So if the U.S.-citizen Israel Firsters want war between Israel and Iran, let them resign their positions here in America, pack their bags, empty their bank accounts, renounce their U.S. citizenship, and take their families to Israel. There they can join the war-wanting regime they so rabidly support, and, more important, they can manfully position themselves to take the same lethal consequences ordinary Israelis will endure if there is a war with Iran.

I must admit that I would absolutely love to see such war-mongering gas bags as John Bolton, Alan Dershowitz, Andrew McCarthy, Michael Bloomberg, Victor Hanson Davis, Eliot Cohen, Bill Kristol, the staffs of the National Review, the Weekly Standard, and the Wall Street Journal, most members of the U.S. Congress and Senate, the AIPAC big-wigs, and the rest of the stern but cowardly U.S.-based Israel-First gang just for once put their money where there big mouths are, and expose themselves and their families to the risks of war they have for so long and so callously salivated to cause for Israel’s citizens from the comfort and safety of their homes here in North America.

 

Please stop listening to Alex Jones.

 

The quick solution is to turn Iran into a parking lot with spaces for oil drills.

Wait until the radiation wears off ...... then get the oil to pay for any of the expenses.

And, even if that is too bothersome......t'was worth it anyway.

Q.E.D.

 

ADDENDUM.

Forgot to mention a very important point: The decent thing to do is to first warn the population to get the F (F for Fig) out.

 

Last time I listened to him was at least several years ago. but I do admire him as an American.

 

An EVEN BETTER SOLUTION to Iran is to destroy American economy to the point where Americans will be BEGGING for a hotdog to suck or a master to serve...

 

Keep dreaming.......better still.......... find out about the 72 virgins and that promised bong.

 

Aren't YOU the guy who had wet dreams about "nuking Palestine swines, just leaving cute pigs for pleasure"? isn't that your quote from couple days ago?

 

Not "wet dreams" about nuking the Palestinian Swine ....twas the IRANIAN Swine.

However, nuking the Palestinian Swine is a helluva good idea also.

And, I don't get "wet dreams" about that......it's just a logical solution for getting rid of a world problem.

I would get a "wet dream" if you, as a good islamist, would go and find out about the 72 virgins and the promised bong.

 

peace-mongering is not the answer.

 

You know we don't need Iran or its oil right? America exports more oil than it imports.