50% of us are poor and low income; what are we doing about this?

Look at how many threads popped up on political forums posted by wacky and jubilant lefties trumpeting the bogus bad news...

 

And chances are the same job in the civilian word would pay less with less job security and little or no retirement benefits.

The public sector is overpaid compared to the civilian workers who support them.

 

What do you believe government can do about so-called poverty?

 

I'll bet you believe all of those shoppers fighting for those $180 Nike basketball shoes are from the wealthy class?

You probably believe anyone driving a newer car is wealthy?

Fact is there is prosperity at every level of the US society...

 

Based on your diatribe, it sounds like you believe that the 25 million Americans who are currently unemployed are 'mooching, parasite bastards who suck off the government', and that all of them could have a job if they simply applied themselves...is this right?

 

You are very correct, Misled.

Why is it people who don't stay in school and finish their education later complain that they can't find a job and then expect others who stayed in school to all pitch in and take care of them?

By the way, if you had instead stayed in school and developed some marketable skills that many companies need, you would have a good job today!

 

So air and water pollution, timber and fish depletion, and the effects of global climate change, in your opinion are gains that are being thrown away?

 

How do you rationalize a global economy with protectionism?

 

What kind of government policy do you believe will have positive effects on the 'poor'?

 

How do we define 'irresponsible and unproductive' behavior?

Have some examples?

 

You're all diatribe, with heavy bias, righteous about your opinions, and offer no dialogue or solutions to real problems. You take real problems and politicize them as if this ever solves anything.

BTW; you know nothing about me and you twist my words in order to suit your bias...

 

Dropping the sales tax of 7-10% still leaves American made products with much higher prices. When the average person can buy a man's shirt at Ross' for $10-$15, how can we ever expect 'average' people to pay 5-6 times more for made-in-the-USA stuff? It's a nice idea but it's not practical and won't work. We need a different plan...

 

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Lies of the Liberal press.



America the Generous? Not According to the Media


By Paul Wilson | December 21, 2011 | 13:17



The media and liberals tend to portray Americans as selfish Scrooges, only interested in their own gain - why else would taxes be unpopular? But America has shown its generosity time and again, and this Christmas season, new proof of it has emerged. A report from the Charities Aid Foundation America, the World Giving Index 2011, finds that the United States is the most generous country in the world.

The World Giving Index 2011 measures generosity on three levels: giving money as a percentage of income, giving time, and helping strangers. Only the United States ranked in the top 10 nations of the world in each category. Charities Aid Foundation director Richard Harrison praised American charitable giving: "This research confirms that when we look at giving in a rounded way, including the extent to which we volunteer and help strangers, America is the most generous country in the world. America is the only country that ranks in the top ten globally on each of these three perspectives, and this first place ranking should be seen as source of real pride for people across America."

But American generosity is rarely acknowledged by the media. Instead, America is usually attacked by the media as not being generous enough, and American donations of time, money, and effort to countries are ignored or even scorned by liberal journalists.

On May 22, 2011, former New York Times economic reporter Eduardo Porter complained in a New York Times editorial that America was the "least generous" of industrial nations - by which he meant Americans were not being taxed enough to fund extensive government social programs. The networks refused to cover the extensive contributions of private faith-based charities when a tsunami devastated Japan in March 2011, and similarly ignored coverage of corporate donations when a destructive earthquake struck Haiti in Jan 2010.

This is because for the mainstream media, government social programs, fueled by taxation, are the only form of effective charity. At times, the media has even attacked private charity, because money given to private charity is not given to government programs. (This attack on private charity might be rooted in the fact that conservatives tend to be far more generous with their time and money than liberals.)

The New York Times' Stephanie Strom bizarrely blasted private charity in 2007 because it took money away from the government, declaring that "The rich are giving more to charity than ever, but people like Mr. Broad are not the only ones footing the bill for such generosity. For every three dollars they give away, the federal government typically gives up a dollar or more in tax revenue, because of the charitable tax deduction and by not collecting estate taxes."

In Nov. 2010, the Washington Post's Ezra Klein advocated giving to politically active think tanks as more effective than traditional gifts to charity.

Apparently, the "forced charity" of government social programs, fueled by higher taxes, is the only worthwhile form of charity, according to liberals. This is one explanation for the consistent media gripe that Americans are not generous, despite the mountain of evidence that suggests otherwise.



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-w...ca-generous-not-according-media#ixzz1hlauN2xl

 

So being below the median income is considered "low income." The answer, then, is that you can do nothing because there will *always* be 50% living below the median income. Perhaps it's the way low income and poverty are described that should be changed so as to reflect reality rather than for political benefit.

 

You don't pay that much more. In most cases it's only a few dollars more. The tooth paste I buy from Crest is the same cost than the toothpaste Colgate was selling made in Mexico. The Ford or Honda made in Mexico will cost you the same as the same ones made in America. It's just the companies get to pocket more profit.

Now I did pay $80.00 more for a Maytag washer made here than a LG made in either Mexico or S. Korea, but I paid it knowing I was helping keep American jobs here.

 

Not if everyone has the same government-mandated income!

See how easily I solved that?

 

You would try that.

On this topic? True....so?

Again, on this topic? Yes....so?

Sure I did, you just stopped listening.

How do you NOT politicize this problem? Answer that, please? What do you mean it never solves anything? Of course it does.

I do find you amusing though. First, you have a grand time telling me who I am, than you go on to tell me that I don't know who you are.

Quite the contrary actually. I have twisted no words of yours. You are simply just too embarrassed to admit that I hit the nail on the head. Well there is always time to change, being that you are now hiding your true thoughts from us. You want the government to take care of you...can't you just please be man/woman enough to say it out loud.

I see nothing wrong in what I said my last post. It is the truth...period. And as usual someone who looks no further than the government to solve ones problems would tend to come back on the defense with words such as "diatribe" or to try the old "you twisted something I said" routine.

In fact what I said, is exactly you...I wish you would just own it. Stop playing games, because what you said back, is you as well....it's you reflecting...and frankly it's typical and boring.

 

If you compare the standard of living in the United States today to what we had 200 years ago yes I consider that an advance.

Americans have taken raw materials from the earth and made something better with them.

Or we did until the bedwetting environmentalists came along and put a stop to it.

Now we are slowly returning to the poverty that our ancestors managed to escape.

 

All they have to do is get one of Obama's awesome Shovel Ready Jobs....

 

22% unemployed in America. The solution is to create more jobs and/or reduce the working week so that the work is shared out. The problem is inequality has been increasing, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, this is actually the root cause of the recession. It's a vicious circle, if the workers have no money the bosses cant find buyer for stuff so they cut back on production and lay people off.

Also, the poor countries like Indonesia where goods are made cheap affect the rich countries. It still costs a small fortune to buy a pair of jeans or trainers so the workers in the west dont necessarily benefit. The profits must be massive. But but deliberately keeping these countries poor, the rich countries also cut their potential markets.

The problem is the system, capitalism, this is the best it has to offer, massive wealth for a few and misery for most. The rich have $ trillions they arent even bothering to invest. They got heavily into the finance industry over the last 30 years because production wasnt making much profits. We relied on production in the poorer countries. Now nearly half of corporate profits in America are from the parasitic finance industry. It grew so big and complex nothing could stop it until the inevitable recession, which it made much bigger.

The Democrats and Republicans have no answers, they were both in league with the bosses, the rich and the finance industry. What's needed is a new workers party which is prepared to take over the big industries and banks and initiate a socialist economy.

 

This is a manipulated statistic. According to the Census Bureau, household median income is defined as "the amount which divides the icome distribution into two equal groups, half having income above that amount and half having income below that amount." So, no matter what the median income is half will always be "poor".

 

If one could guarantee that 10% lower cost, then shirt making might not be a niche industry for boutique labels..It is not that China is making $90 shirts for $15 but that they are making $25 shirts at $15...

 

In my county alone we are feeding 80,000 people per month through the food bank...all charitable giving.

Volunteerism in my community is a priority.

The stupid Jerry Lewis telethon just raised $55 million!

I'll suggest if we remove the current charitable giving in the USA today, that lots of people across the USA will be in dire situations. It's stupid to gauge how much charitable giving is acceptable. It makes zero difference how one nation compares to another. Just more political BS and the media looking for something controversial because they can't write intelligent and interesting stories...

 

It's all political BS BHK. It's just a way to politically divide and try to conquer. It's class warfare that solves nothing.

However, I do believe as a nation we can do much better in providing affordable housing, nutritional food, and access to health care...

 

The prices of most things are determined by supply and demand and market competition.

A highly automated product like toothpaste, considering comparable products, are going to sell for about the same prices. Like making a man's shirt, which requires more labor, a shirt produced in Sri Lanka will be priced far below a shirt produced in the USA. The shirts I have seen ARE NOT massed-produced by the thousands.

I keep waiting for American companies to buck the off-shore trend and start producing more stuff in the USA. But when the primary sales outlets are Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart, Macy's, etc., in which they are procuring products around the world at rock-bottom prices, how can American-made products ever gain enough traction to become high volume?