4th best president or 4th worse president?

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Obama's legacy, what do you think?

  1. He's the 4th best president as he claims

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  2. You're right, he's the 4th worst.

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  3. Neither. Stop with the hyperbole already!

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  1. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    I'm well aware that we had a knife to the Soviets' throat and they were just trying to even the playing field by arming Cuba. It was still the right thing to do to keep the knife at their throat while denying them the same ability in our hemisphere. To compensate, the Soviets eventually spent themselves into bankruptcy.
     
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    False. He hardly did anything for civil rights while in office. He also voted against The Civil Rights Act.
     
  3. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Now you people are just making things up. Shameful. President Kennedy specifically asked for civil rights legislation "giving all Americans the right to be served in facilities which are open to the public—hotels, restaurants, theaters, retail stores, and similar establishments," and "greater protection for the right to vote," in a landmark speech in 1963. It was signed into law by President Johnson after Kennedy's assassination. So quit with the lying and shame on you!
     
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    you put Abe lincoln as the worst and Andrew Jackson as one of the best.... you do know jackson is one of the most vile human beings to ever live.
     
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    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    See the Trail of Tears.
     
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    intreasting that the same bill was put forward during Eisenhowers Administration and he lead congress to nullify Eisenhowers attempts to do it as president..... and as he put it years later "now that we have the Civil rights bill passed. we will have the black vote for all eternity."
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    When did I say Jackson was one of the best? Did you just embarass yourself?
     
  8. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    I think this is the only post of yours that I've ever agreed with 100%
     
  9. kk8

    kk8 New Member Past Donor

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    Lying? Shame on me? Oh please, it's not my fault that you've been sold a bill of goods on Jackie boy, and you clearly don't know your history. Here's a clue...anything however small Kennedy did for blacks, only happened when Bobby told him he would not get the black vote in 1964...why do you think he started doing something about the mess in the South in 1963? You think that he all of a sudden started "caring?"

    JFK was a spoiled little Irish punk. Out of the two of them....I pick Bobby as the better one. But, their family was still rotten to the core. I can't even imagine the amount of scandalous secrets that family has locked up tight.
     
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    My pick for top 4 in no particular order would be...Washington, Reagan, Lincoln and Jefferson.
     
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    Worst
    1. Wilson
    2. LBJ
    3. Nixion
    4. Bush jr
    I'm sure Obama would be the 5th worst

    Best.
    1. Washington
    2. Jefferson
    3. Kennedy
    4. Taft
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    The fact that jimmie carter didn't make your list of 5 worst presidents makes me believe that you have no idea of what makes a good or bad president. Failed!
     
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    Last time I checked Jimmy Carter didn't lie his way into a war like Bush and LBJ, he didn't run this country into debt like Obama, he didn't face impeachment like Nixon for abuse of power, and he didn't sale this country out to bankers like Wilson did.

    Carter, even being a mediocre president, still out shines the worst.

    I suggest you pick a book up and learn something for once.
     
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    Do you have a link/proof to this, or is it fresh out of your oven?
     
  15. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who hasn't been living under a rock and pays attention to the news is well aware of this. You're one of those tools that demands proof just to demand proof, not because my claims are out of the axiom, but just to be annoying. It's not my job to alleviate your ignorance or accomodate your pester tactics. It's been all over the news for the last two weeks and I really don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) whether you believe it or not. You're either incredibly stupid or just a pest.
     

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