Egypt arrests Christian over Muhammad drawing

Where did he state 'uncovered'? He mentioned nothing about the bottle being open, just having one - even a sealed container - is a crime against sharia law.

I notice that you didn't mention his comments about conversions, dating or even jizya. Does that mean you acknowledge the truth of his point - that Sharia is forced on everyone, not just Muslims?

 

Christianity was spread + enforced throughpout Europe + later in the America's + Africa by th sword . I'm afraid the Celts + other Pagan European tribes did'nt have the opportunity to leave us a record of their ordeals , except for rare instances like the Sami people of Norway.

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Have you heard of the Jesuits and the Inquisition ?

Were the Jews + Moors of Spain (Iberian Peninsula) not forced to convert to convert ?. Bearing in mind that Jews and Christians were'nt forced to convert to Islam during the many centuries of Islamic rule ?

Have you not heard of how Pizarro + Cortes with their sword carry Monks slaughtered native Indians in the New World ? + spread Christianity ?

There are many recorded instances but I 'll give you this -
" A Spanish Friar (monk ) the Inca chief Atahualpa a bible , the guy had never seen a bible before and threw it aside , he has arrested hand sentenced to be burnt . Atahualpa was horrified because he believed his spirit would be destroyed if his body was burned and he could not enter the afterlife. Instead he agreed to be baptised a Christian but the Sppaniards still wanted to make an example of him and strangled him with a rope.


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Great point. Religions go through the evolutionary process just like everything else and Islam is about 600 years behind Christianity. Karen Armstrong's book "A History of God" spells this out very well. You keep making great points.

 

I guess Egypt is becoming the next Iran.

 

Oh out of context bollocks.

Unless 99% of Islam are doing what you presumably are if you are Christian, i.e. pretending to be adhering to conscientious Christianity and practising the concepts Christ preached, such as loving your neighbour, turning the other cheek...while you are actually preaching hate against your fellow man...

...then 99% of Islam must also be duplicitous hypocrites who do not adhere to the teachings of the religion they try to live by.

Because if they did adhere to what you assert is accurate then 99% of Islam would be currently terrorising and forcing conversions all round.

As far as I can see, they're not. Therefore one assumes your perception of Islamic teachings is misguided at best.

 

Not really. This is something that could have happened in any number of Islamic countries and it is nothing new in this culture of honour.

 

Well, I would hope it wouldn't happen in Turkey.

 

Well not quite the same public reaction but here's a case from last week with an interesting twist:

Turkish court accepts online blasphemy case, ECtHR ruling precedent

 

Well, I guess they're not a secular government anymore.

 

Perhaps Brewski is unaware of the tenets of Islam, which forbid a pictorial representation of any part of a person., much less that of The Prophet himself (that's why mosques have no pictures of people decorating them). The individual in question lives in a minority community of Christians with an uneasy relationship with the Muslim majority with past incidences of violence and he must have had quite a good idea how his cartoon wouldl be received by some Muslims (exactly the kind quick to anger and violence).

If I was black and I married a white woman, I wouldn't move back to live with my relatives in Redneck Alabama. If I was a Hindu, I wouldn't go eat pork sausages on the sidewalk in front of the synagogue on Friday afternoon. There are some things that are just blindingly obviously a bad idea, and the fellow in question put his whole community at risk by doing so.

 

I don't really care to read a listing of bad things Christians did in the past. My point was that forced and violent conversions are not something that Christians believe in, as it is found nowhere in the Gospels. Your post did nothing to refute that.

Most religious groups have done bad things, but the difference with Islam is that the bad things are actually commanded by the religion itself. The chaos that Muslims commit is not made in spite of the religion. That's the difference.

 

That's a dumb idea. Human civilization has advanced more in the past 100 years than it has in the past 1000 years. Only Muslims care to stay behind in the Dark Ages, and they want to make the entire world that way.

I'm not giving jihadists a "grace period". You must be suicidal.

 

I'm not a Christian. However, I'm not somebody stupid and PC enough to pretend that Christianity is more inherently vile than Islam, nor will I pretend that Islamic history is not bloodier than Christian history.

This is the 3rd time I'm posting this, this week. You Islamoapologists sure love to play this little game

 

That's not one of the tenets of Islam, but anyway....

You're simply arguing that the dhimmi Christian should just stay in his repressed place amongst his Muslim masters. No matter how assbackwards their rule about drawings is, it doesn't matter. They'll kill people over it, so we should just do as we are told.

And you guys wonder why we don't want more Islam in the West.

 

welcome to Erdogan. Europe should prepare for a future showdown with the turks again, lets not forget that they were barely held of at Vienna more then once, or forget that Anatolia has been in its entirely conquerd by the turks.