Ron Paul supporters who will not support the GOP nominee are Liberals

Paul has got ONE bill passed in all his time in Congress. He has sponsored many HUNDREDS of bills. ONE has become law and it was a minor nothing bill. something about a monument or a memorial. Not a big deal.

But of all the hundreds that did not become law, there is always a good excuse for their failing. obama always has a good excuse too. Nothing has ever been his fault. FAIL is FAIL. Why is only important if you're going to make changes so you don't fail again. Paul hasn't done that in the DECADES he has had.
He's been an ass on a seat [sometimes] the whole time he's been in Congress.

 

I do believe he just got a partial audit of the Fed, which revealed that he has been correct about their secrecy and corruption the entire time. His other bills haven't gotten support because most of Congress are worthless corrupt creatures who have allowed our nation to fall to this point. 10% approval rating is it?

He's been an ass in a seat saying to stay out of Iraq, stop spending, they're creating a housing bubble, they're taking liberties from the citizens. You've been in ass in a seat supporting corrupt crony capitalists and a "conservative" president who increased federal spending more than any president since FDR.

You GOPers who do not support Paul, support this, and you don't even know it.
http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/205594-new-world-order.html

 

Why do you want Congress to get anything done? Everything they do is bad. Unless they plan on starting to do good things, it's better if they don't do anything at all.

 

Paul has zero chance as third party. Everyone with half a brain knows that. My favorite candidate has no shot either that doesn't mean I don't know that the one true goal as a true conservative is to defeat Obama. Otherwise you are dooming this country to another 4 years of his rule and very likely allowing the supreme court to go liberal majority. Any real conservative sees the extreme danger of this.

 

you do realize that eventually the two become one in the same, don't you?

 

If that post didn't get through to you, then nothing will. you have been brainwashed by a false conservative ideology

 

you don't get it do you?
there IS no compromising going on. It is only the illusion of compromise. We have collectivist Republicans vs. collectivist Democrats. The only difference is in the name. Both are in favor of big government, central economic planning, debt, inflation, and dangerous unsustainable foreign policy. There is no choice. Real compromise would involve someone like Ron Paul compromising with the establishment. Romney or Gingrich vs. Obama is absolutely no compromise. It's pure Collectivism, just like the real Hitler situation you are so afraid of.

 

The difference is that a corporate monkey will from time to time get a banana.

 

The premise of your post isn't bad, and I do understand you want what is best for your country, which to you is as simple as NO OBAMA. I just find that a lot of these types of arguments fall flat on their face however when I ask, what exactly is a "true conservative"? I believe it is an absurd mistake to think that the conservative ideal falls squarely within the prism of the Republican party. Had the neo-cons been in power the last 3 years spending would have looked no different, the war spending would have been no more, no less. The only thing Obama really did that was all that different from a big government republican was Obamacare and maybe a touch of environmentalism.

I don't think it's a given that Obama is worse than any republican.

Mitt seems like a nice enough guy... He is Obama

Newt is a criminal and a liberal

Bachmann would start attacking more middle eastern countries tomorrow

Santorum, I worry, would try to run a Christian theocracy and also seems to want a holy war with the middle east. He talks fiscal conservative but votes liberal

Perry is a panderer with no ideas (or intelligence) of his own

Huntsmann.... Perhaps

 

I seriously doubt this statement as a "true conservative" supports absolute compliance with the US Constitution and no president has violated the US Constitution more than former President Bush. The Bush adminstration was in gross violation of the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution and violated the Rights of every American in doing so.

While only alleged the following quotation attibuted to former President Bush really sums up his presidency:

http://factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-god(*)(*)(*)(*)ed-piece-of-paper/

While FactCheck.org has found no collaboration for whether Bush actually made this statement it is certainly reflective of the actions of his adminstration.

We can say that the Obama adminstration is violating the intent of the Interstate Commerce Clause but that is no where near as serious as violations of the Rights of Privacy, Right of Equal Protection, Right of Due Process of the Law, Right of Habeas Corpus, and violation of the explicit prohibition against any forms of cruel and unusual punishment by the US government committed under the Bush Adminstration.

 

That is like saying that the American revolutionaries who died before getting to see the declaration of independence signed were failures. Ron Paul is the father of a movement. He has raised support of libertarianism from about 1% to 15% of the population in his life time. He has put issues like the federal reserve and deficit spending and personal liberty back on the table like no other in over a century. He was literally the lone voice many times on these issues. His fortitude and persistence is astonishing. He is now a key factor in the Presidential election. To call this a failure is absurd. Every major new idea or change in the world must always begin within a loud minority. Ron Paul, agree with him or not, is a massively successful intellectual revolutionary.

 

You forgot the words "Warmongering, hatemongering, fearmongering, bigotted" between "true" and "conservative". But keep thinking the TEA party is anything less than Ron Pauls libertarian views of less spending and less government through actual cuts in the governmental power, and keep thinking it is what Michelle (I hate brown people) Bachmann proposes as cuts to spending DOWN THE ROAD.

 

His legislative record is a failure. That's all that was said. You are making statements no one has repeated.

And no he is certainly not massively successful in any way shape or form. Libertarian ideas have been around far longer than he has. His biggest enemy is his own big mouth. Claiming US soldiers have killed one million Iraqis is just one example of his lunacy.

 

You want to be an Obama supporter and vote third party go right ahead. Just don't deny what you have become by doing so. An Obama supporter

 

Nope. I am principled and can't vote for any form of evil. How about those that would deny voting for Ron Paul if he got the nomination? People like Trump that are holding the GOP hostage by threatening to run 3rd party if Ron wins the nomination? Isn't that worse than your speculation that all RP supporters will vote for RP even if he doesn't get the nomination?

Big business politicians are the threat to the country. If they don't get their nomination, they will sabatage the vote so that Obama will win again and you say Ron Paul is the problem. Sad how brain washed you are.

 

Vader: Don't lecture me, Obi-Wan. I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the Dark Side as you do. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire.
Obi-Wan: Your new Empire?
Vader: Don't make me kill you.
Obi-Wan: Anakin, my alliegance is to the Republic, to democracy!
Vader: If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.
Obi-Wan: Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.
Vader: You will try.

 

Yeah, seeing how Obama is already a corportist politician.

 

Romney is a socialist? Is that what you said?

 

Thats funny you say a true conservitive supports the nominee, even if it's a non conservitive like Romney, Gingrich.

I thought to be a true conservitive you had to support the true conservitive.

 

So Obi-Wan is a sith?

 

excellent point.
This means he has not been absorbed into the collectivist mindset of the two major parties.

Thank you for reaffirming why he is the right choice, a valid choice for anyone not willing to be a political stooge.

 

LOL just like 2008, everyone who is not my canadidate is a socialist.

 

Romney is more similar to Obama than Ron Paul is. Ron Paul would not support Romney care or Obama care. Ron Paul would not support bank bailouts, Ronmey and Obama do. Ron Paul does not support foreign wars or interventions, Obama and Romney do ect. It's almost impossible to find any real policy Obama and Ronmey would differ on, the only difference is broad and meaningless rhetoric that is too general to ever be real policy.

 

no, maybe just a corporatist whore like the rest of 'em, including the current president and several of his predecessors.

 

They all support free markets and free trade. They all are corportists.