Ron Paul supporters who will not support the GOP nominee are Liberals

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    But you are ok with him lying then, even if he wasn't black? Romney is the same as Obama, but you don't like that he lies. So is it the Skin or the party?
     
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    I'm voting for the Republican nominee. Hopefully, it's Ron Paul.
     
  3. Dan40

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    0 parties in a 3000 by 1200 mile wide nation with 312 million legal people would be chaos. To think it would be true Democracy is Utopian Dreaming on a Liberal scale!

    In short order we would have no 'official' parties' But as many as dozens of "conspiracy parties." There is a thing called human nature. You may love it or hate it, but forget human nature and you'll be run over in no time at all.
     
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    What, exactly, is "human nature?" I see people use it as a threat as to what may happen if there were no government, but I still haven't seen an actual, factual theory on what human nature is.
     
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    If you have to ask the question, there is no way for you to understand the answer.
     
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    I am a Ron Paul supporter.
    i am a classical liberal.
    i will only vote for freedom and Americana.

    There is no other canidate that even comes close to this very loose principle of mine, and i, like most of the others in the 20% Paul block, are part of the "i dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what you think" crowd. Get over it.
     
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    That's a ridiculous response. I don't know what you consider human nature to be, I think it may be the subject of university courses and fields of science.

    I ask because I'm curious, if you can't provide an answer I don't think you were honestly wanting an answer.
     
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    I didn't ask a question, you did. I am very familiar with human nature. I made my fortune dealing with its positives and negatives. Knowing human nature allowed me to often know what another person was going to say or do before they knew what they were going to say or do.

    I meant what I said, you wouldn't understand the answer and I have no need or desire to educate you. This is the net, go find out for yourself. You'll appreciate it more if you WORK for it. That is a little tiny bit of human nature for you.
     
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    What part of Mit is different then Obama?
    The red tie?

    The status quo TV heads need to grow a pair and stop playing "Im going to live in a fairy tale because it called normal". Your going to get run over. The monolithic beast that is the establishment isnt going to stop, and you will never be a part of it. WE THE PEOPLE who know the truth, love life, liberty and will die for the pursuit of happiness will run threw you to make that a reality. So if you cant join reality, step aside before you become a tragic victim of history.

    The Ron Paul block isn’t getting excited about the man and the office, it’s the ideas and its association to reality. Most of us, especially the holdovers from the 08 run, aren’t in it to win “it”. The country is more or less lost, and we are just trying to resurrect it any way we can.
     
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    True conservatives don't believe in the Federal Reserve.
     
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    Name 5 policy differences between Romney and Obama. They're the same guy policy-wise. Right down to health care. There's no point in voting for a "conservative" who's just as liberal as the guy I'm supposed to vote against. Given the Romney record, I'm not even sure that the conservative judgeships are a given.

    That's part of the trouble of a two party system -- you win by simply being less evil than the other guy. Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I want someone who's actually good, not just someone who's not as evil.
     
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    Romney is a political whore. He does blows in the direction the political winds are blowing. He has no core values. There IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA AND ROMNEY. Obama just wants to spend money on social welfare and Romney wants to spend money on his corporate cronies. They both can kiss my cheeks and not the ones on my face.
     
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    That would describe me pretty well. At this point, I would rather have Obama than Romney. At least everyone knows Obama is a statist!
     
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    Romney people hate the constitution. They don't care what it really says except when THEIR toes are being stepped on.
     
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    wow, one big talking anecdote.
    Pretty nifty.
     
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    I did ask the question and you don't seem to be able to produce a response.

    I would like to know what YOU consider human nature to be.

    I don't believe you've made a fortune and I don't believe you understand human nature... not that I do... that's why I ask.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    What I find upon reviewing the current Republican candidates, Ron Paul excepted, is that they don't represent traditional conservative values but instead seem to represent facist values. Given the choice between supporting liberals or supporting facists I would think that most people would choose supporting liberals.

    As a Libertarian I, of course, support neither but then I won't be voting for either Ron Paul or Obama just like I didn't support McCain or Obama in 2008. I will not make a choice between the lessor of two evils.
     
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    Just for curiosity. If you don't vote either of them are you abstentionist? Something that I agree.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I review the alternatives such as voting for Bob Barr in the 2008 election. Bob Barr is not a "perfect" libertarian but does support compliance with the US Contitution which was not supported by either John McCain or Barack Obama in 2008. I have yet to decide who I'll vote for in 2012 but it won't be Ron Paul as I believe the eventual Libertarian candidate will unquestionably be a better choice.
     
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    ....no offense, but that would somewhat be throwing your vote away. If that's how you feel then ok, but I'm supporting Ron Paul because he actually has a chance.
     
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    I still can't comprehend how any one in their right minds could even be light years close to the idea of entertaining the concept that the Political Idiot Ron Paul will be the nominee.

    It's like hoping that a chair will turn into a tomato.
     
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    ...We've had a german action film star with a nazi past be a governor....you really think Ron Paul winning is less likely than that?
     
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    It's funny.

    As time goes by...the people against Ron Paul sound more and more extremist.

    And those for him sound more and more reasonable.
     
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    That's right! I'm an extremist against Ron Paul.
     
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    Like I was sayin'...
     
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