How long could Iran blockade the Strait of Hormuz?

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How long could Iran blockade the Strait of Hormuz?

  1. An hour, if they're luckey

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  2. A few hours,

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  3. A day.

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  4. A week.

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  5. A month.

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  6. 1/2 a year

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  7. A year

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  8. As long as Obama is in office.

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  9. As long as they want too.

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  10. They will never try it.

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  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    as I give it more thought Iran could effectively close the straights indefinitely if it choose to without a complete blockade....even the threat of a mine will stop tanker traffic or raise insurance costs so high that crude oil prices climb to incredible levels, the resulting uncertainty and financial damage is as effective as a complete blockage...the resulting damage to the american and world economy is beyond the US navies ability to repair, it would be a Pyrrhic victory for the US...
     
  2. moon

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    If it were my coastline and waters being subjected to environmental destruction for the sake of ' Israel's security ' then I'd want to ensure that that war was carried to the coasts of the US and Israel to equal effect. There wouldn't be a tanker or refinery that wouldn't cost millions of dollars to protect. That's the sort of thinking that is engendered by proximity to environmental catastrophe. Take Somalia and the Niger Delta as examples. This unjust war- if started- will not have a finish date.
     
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    Indefinitly ,for all the Global Proletariet cares,oh poor little Middle Class come live in privation like the rest of humanity ,or return to the Government bringing down political universally faceted rebellion against the Capitialist banks ,Governments and Corporations .Stand up now for democracy signal the proletariet to the streets in the Best form of Mass struggle ,2012 year of MUTI-MILLIONED PROLETARIET REBELLION,better then General strike is the Global General strike on May1st ,Against Global Transnationals and the IMF.

    No to the 2teir US Wage system in the Advanced or "western"Nations .

    Equality of the base wage at $US 35 an hour for all Global proletariet.

    Expropiation of the Common and private Wealth of the Capitialist Class.

    Repudiate ALL Credit debt Both personal and national for workers and small Buisness.

    All debt is owed by the Capitialists only, the Expropiation of capitialist private ownership and repudiation of all private debt in any form to the banks, is compensation for the swindling and corruption and for taking thinking and democratic minded humans for stupid ,IDIOT!

    Lets be at the Revolutionary Barricades for the end of the year perhaps ,Comrades.
     
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    Don't know. How long would it take their navy's ships to sink to the bottom of the Strait of Hormuz?
     
  5. philxx

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    80 % of us see it as a possibility watch out ,to the other 20% that do not think so ,study books and forget about the "God thing"ric sartorum for President ,say it is so.

    The Death of the Republican Party or is it the Republican Paty as a tea party Rump?

    stay tuned to find out ,Channel un USA.

    TEA\republican party.looks like accurate political observation from Commo phil again.
     
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    KSigMason Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You really need to get a stronger grasp on the English language and basic writing skills.
     
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    LOL, it isnt difficult to work out. Human Rights and War Conventions and Rules are followed by one and not followed by the other. Terrorist for example commonly and repeatidly attack civilians and their terrorist organisations support and promote this sort of action.

    What lack of logic you have.
     
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    Feel free to explain?

    That sort of stuff happens, but they wouldnt last very long after they showed their true colors would they!!

    Not much probably, unless they have a WMD.

    Huh?

    Then Israel would probably be supported in retaking the Sinai and Suez by the US and NATO directly.

    Well thats the reason no sane person wants Iran getting nuclear weapons, because these Iranian proxy groups break the link of evidence between the state producer of the nuke and the delivery agents. So to answer you, depending on the nature of the attack, Isreal usually targets the command network of the terrorist group.

    Opps someone slipped into fantasy land.

    Start a new thread. Repeating rubbish like a mantra then twisting the scenario to try and create some seal of hypocrisy might work for brainwashing you, but for most people rubbish is just rubbish.

    The thread was how long could Iran close the Strait of Hormuz. Blowing up a waves of fast moving boats is not too difficult for a couple of ARG's, a CSG and the USAF... unless your only point was that a 'thousand' is a really big number - I guess you speak to your audiences IQ!?
     
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    So if you fire hellfire missiles at someone's wedding reception you are a terrorist but if you lay IEDs to blow up a military convoy you aren't.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Argh ok, I see now you really dont get it. That explains your position. If the IED's are triggered by visual confirmation against only a military target then its not terrorism. If the person firing Hellfires into a wedding and knowing its a wedding then that is terrorism, but if the wedding is not known as a wedding and involves gunfire in a region known for enemy combatants in a war zone then its called a stupid wedding planner.
     
  12. moon

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    So the premises have you rattled. Good. Wait 'til some professionals show you around Hormuz.
     
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    Unfortunately that is not the case. Five years ago a chinese diesel attack sub surfaced within 5 miles of a US carrier. Currently, The quitest modern attack submarine
    in the world is the German type 214- a diesel electric submarine with an air independant propulsion system. Diesel electric submarines operating in littoral waters are the single greatest threat to US carriers in existence today. Iran has 3 kilo class ss submarines whch they purchased from the russians. The kilo class is a very quiet submarine that is VERY well suited for operations in the gulf. these subs in combin aation with c701/c802 missiles, mines and motor boat swarm tactics would allow the iranians to close the straights. Undoubtedly, the US could reopen the straights but it would take at a minimum of several weeks and maybe several months.
     
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    So you say it's one rule for America and another rule for everyone else?

    If an Afghani can't be certain he's targeting the military he's a terrorist but if an American can't be certain he's targeting the military he isn't.

    So the attack on the USS Cole wasn't a terrorist attack, it was, after all, a military target.
     
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    And the worst thing: the rest of the world will be right. Warmongers and who kept silent to this interventions will be the disgrace of western world.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/219268.html
    China has voiced strong opposition to the US-led push for unilateral sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program, reiterating that Tehran's nuclear issue must be resolved diplomatically.


    "China has consistently believed that sanctions are not the correct way to ease tensions or resolve the issue of Iran's nuclear program," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said at a news briefing in Beijing on Wednesday.

    "The correct path is dialogue and negotiations. China opposes putting domestic law above international law to impose unilateral sanctions on another country," he said.

    Hong also defended China's oil and trade ties with Iran and criticized the Western sanctions that could frustrate such relations.

    "China and Iran have normal and transparent trade and energy exchanges that do not contravene UN Security Council resolutions. The dealings in question should not be affected (by sanctions),” the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman pointed out.

    On December 31, US President Barack Obama signed into law fresh economic sanctions against Iran's Central Bank in a bid to punish foreign companies and banks that do business with the Iranian financial institution.

    The legislation requires foreign financial firms to make a choice between doing business with Iran's Central Bank and oil sector or with the US financial sector.

    It will not, however, go into effect for six months in order to provide oil markets with time to adjust.

    It also includes a "waiver" allowing the president to suspend the sanctions in case he decides that the anti-Iran attempt will adversely impact national security interests of the US.

    The inclusion of the “waiver” in the bill reflects major concerns among American lawmakers that the bullying approach of the US against the Islamic Republic will backfire across the globe.

    Meanwhile, energy experts say the sanctions could lead to a major hike in crude oil prices and disrupt the interests of the US and its allies that depend on oil imports from Iran.

    The United States has already barred its own banks from dealing with the Iranian Central Bank.
     
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    That's a urban legend silly... It never happened. The same story is told with a chinese, a russian, a french subs...
     
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    a legend in your mind silly, my bro-in-law took part in those exercises...
     
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    Your bro in law is a liar or a figment of your imagination...
     
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    a day max depending how far the battle group is.

    I imagine they would just sail through and dare Iran to make a move. Iran may do it this time, Obama has been levied the strongest sanctions on Iran, more then any other president so we are breaking new territory on what could happen.
     
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