Would you support this law?

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  1. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    To help clear out the prisons, and give murderers and rapists what they deserve, I propose that we bring back the death penalty many states.

    Rape, 1st degree murder, and child molestation would all have a maximum penalty of death.

    Those convicted of these crimes will have an initial period of 1 year to appeal the conviction and sentence, and may have a maximum of 5 years to do so. If they are unable to get an extension of appeal time, or max out their 5 year period, a date of execution will be set for within a time of 1 year. There will be no more sitting in prison for 15 to 20 years.

    A condemned criminal will have a choice of type of death.
    They will be able to choose from
    Firing Squad
    Lethal Injection
    Hanging
    Beheading
    Gladiatorial Games; The condemned will face each other in mortal combat (The winner will receive a lighter sentence of life imprisonment, without parole.......The government will charge admission and concessions for citizens who wish to watch the games)
     
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    skeptic-f New Member

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    While we're at it, why waste stray dogs and cats. We could have them fight in cages to the death for our entertainment instead of just being euthanized. Wouldn't that be more effective and profitable?

    Get back to me with the discussion involves something approaching morality.
     
  3. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    I see nothing immoral about allowing condemned criminals to choose to fight each other to avoid the death penalty. They would not be forced, It would be their choice....
     
  4. Unifier

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    Really, the death penalty should still be used in every state. Beyond that, your solution is too extreme.
     
  5. LibertarianFTW

    LibertarianFTW Well-Known Member

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    I don't mind capital punishment in principle, but I don't like the idea of the government having this power, especially in a loose fashion. Discrimination could easily arise, as well as putting innocent people to death. If you want to reduce the number of prisoners, why not pardon all prisoners convicted for nonviolent drug related crimes, who make up more than 60% of prisoners?
     
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    I feel a little pandered to with this part. If anything was going to get me to be in favor of capital punishment, this might have been it. It's got a D&D sort of feel to it. Or Trek.

    Good try! But I'm still against capital punishment.
     
  7. jor

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    Until we have a way to be 100% positive the person committed the crime I am against the death penalty.
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like a test to see how just much like ancient Rome we've become. When a significant proportion of the nation finally get to the point where these hypothetical possibilities sound like great ideas, we'll know that civilization is circular rather than linear.
     
  9. JME

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    Beheading is too much work to clean up. Castration for rapists. For murders, wait till you have thousands of them, arm them to the teeth, then drop them into North Korea.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Want to clear out the prisons?

    Decriminalize the use of drugs.

    Problem solved.
     
  11. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    Wel under law, if there is any reasonable doubt of guilt a person is innocent..
     
  12. Daggdag

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    While I agree....... still say rape should be a capital crime.....
     
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    I disagree. Not that I want to sound like I'm defending rapists, or anything. But in the case of a rape, a life has not been taken.

    Even the usual 'eye for an eye' justification for capital punishment wouldn't apply. It would make more sense to have the rapist raped, and nobody supports that (in a legal sense) because having a state executioner on the payroll may not bother people but having a state rapist would probably seem like a bad idea. We leave that up to the other prison inmates and pretend it wasn't our decision.
     
  14. jor

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    Yes, but innocent people get sent to jail. Until this gets fixed I cannot support the death penalty. I would rather have thousands of guilty people in prison for life then 1 innocent person be killed.
     
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    I disagree. Who deserves the death penalty:
    A guy who raped, tortured, and permanently disfigured multiple little girls, or
    An elderly woman who shoots the man who raped her only daughter?

    The punishment should not exceed the crime. Some crimes are as bad or worse than murder.
     
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    Quit putting people in jail for getting high and that would accomplish the same thing.
     
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    Well, honestly, I don't think that the death penalty is proper in either case. As much as the extreme example of the guy who does horrible things to little girls does cry out to be an exception, I think that killing people is something that should only be done on a purely rational basis, which makes the death penalty pretty much impossible.

    Rationally, what I think should be done with the guy in your example is that he should be locked up and studied for his whole life, so that he serves to help our understanding of bug(*)(*)(*)(*) crazies. Emotionally, I sympathize with wanting to kill him as a punishment, and as an attempt at some sort of closure to the ordeal of living through such an event, but rationally I know it doesn't work that way.

    And the elderly woman should be locked up briefly for her own safety, to make sure she's okay, and then set free with a slap on the wrist.
     
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    I am in favor of reform, particularly in the appeals process.

    Allowing someone convicted and sentenced to death, to game the system for 10/15/20+ years at the expense of taxpayers is not something I agree with.
     
  19. Daggdag

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    That is where my 5 year maximum comes from.......Convicts have a 1 year period to appeal, and if they want more they can get a court to extend the period. If they do not get an extension, or max out their 5 years, a exeuction date is set for no longer than 1 year......So, 6 years is the maximum time a person would spend on death row.
     
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    Didn't the germans try this in the 1940's? To the Nazis they were simply cleansing their country of scum who were polluting their glorious fatherland. Sig Heil!!
     
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    Not only that, but I suspect you'll see a lot more cases of rape victims being murdered as a result of making rape a capital offense since the offender will be looking at the same penalty either way. So he will have no incentive to let his victim live.
     
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    The Naxis did it to innocent people....not murderers, rapists, ect.....A man who kills 6 people should die.......All I am saying that we should let him choose the way he does.
     
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    That.^^^^^
     
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    You can't be 100% sure if the defendant continues denying their guilt....That is where reasonable doubt comes from......
     
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    Innocent people deny their guilt as well. How would we know if they were innocent or guilty? Some innocent people may confess as well.
     

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