Obama Says NO !

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  1. Margot

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    They have a lousy safety record. Go to their website..

    This is about TransCanada.. at the expense of the American public.

    Jamming it thru means you don't get to study the situation..
     
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    LOLOLOL.. China isn't operating in the Gulf of Mexico.. and you evidently don't know anything about Horizontal drilling.
     
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    I thought all that has already been done with the stimulus?
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    Politically, it is a boon to the Republicans. It gives the jobs issue to them this fall.

    But as far as the country goes, it was a dumb decision. I'm surprised he's actually doing it. He really does care more about his ideology than the economy or the country.
     
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    There's no justifying it. It's deliberately harmful to the economy and people.
    You can tell - he's blaming it on the Republicans. If he wanted it, he would have approved it. It's been studied to death.

    Remember how he operates in November: Chicago thug statist.
     
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    China has negotiated a deal with Cuba to drill in the Cuban EEZ, which extends into the Gulf of Mexico.

    The Russians are quite adept at "horizontal" oil drilling. I don't know a lot about it... but they're doing it.
     
  7. AnnaK

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    I'm not sure where you're getting your information but studies are showing that the pipeline is mainly for getting the oil to refineries so it can be shipped overseas and will have NO IMPACT ON DOMESTIC USE and therefore IMPO isn't worth destroying land and environmental factors all the way across the U.S. if we aren't going to get anything but higher prices from it.

     
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    Notice how raelity and facts trump republican ignroance ocne again.

    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>> The company charged with building the pipeline experiences 12 oil spills a year in Canada, meaning approving the pipeline means millions of peoples drinking water will be contaminated and billions in environmental damages
    http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/17/297576/oil-spills-transcanada-keystone-xl-pipeline/

    Also the study that concluded thousands of jobs would of been created include jobs created in Canada, India, and China.
    http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011...one-xl-tar-sands-pipeline-isnt-a-job-creator/

    Actually real scientific studies that include the environmental damage from the pipeline find that it would be a net negative tot he American economy.
    <<< Personal Attack/Insults >>>
     
  9. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet Jam thru Solyndra did the Obama Adm.And many similar type
    unsolid ventures.Yet put something on the job block that is almost
    guaranteed to create thousands of jobs { 20,000 initially }and also
    help alleviate our dependence on foreign oil and Obama is left speechless.
    Probably because it's a no brainer.No need for some Mt.Teleprompter to
    bandy about as if His Big notion.
     
  10. Oakchair

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    Considering the fact that the govenrment didn't lose any money on the Solyndra loan one who was smart would hardly call it a bad thing. Not to mention the FEDS green energy loan garrentees have a default rate below 2% which is ten times lower then private sector defualt rates.
    Also has people have been posting since the begining the Piplines net economic effects would of been negative for America, meaning anyone who supports the pipline supports making TransCanada richer at the expense of the America people
     
  11. Lil Mike

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    Hey, all I'm saying is that you are not providing legitimate sources for your points. I've fact checked and debunked enough Think Progress articles that I know not to waste my time on it.

    Here, let me help you out. Why don't you get a copy of the report from the EPA site that shows the contamination to the water table from fracking. Then I can post the study debunking that and so on. But if you are going to rely on Think Progress to do your thinking for you, you'll just wind up looking like an idiot.

    So I'm trying to help out and show you how this is done. By using Think Progress, your argument looks as jumbled as your spelling.
     
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  12. FearandLoathing

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    All of the liberals dumping on the project and Trans Canada may want to read the decision, issued jointly by Owebama and the State Department.

    It says the decision was NOT made on its merits, but blames the Republicans in Congress for not allowing enough time.

    Now there is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing surprise. Owebama blaming Republicans! Wow, now that's new.

    The Republicans are going to have a field day as anyone who knows the situation knows his is pure politics. The project isn't canceled. It's in a "state of limbo" until after the election and Owebama garners the enviroweenie vote.

    What a freakin' joke.
     
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    At least he's using a source and so am I. I don't see a single one from any of you who're trying to say it's the best thing for the world since sliced bread and Obama's trying to destroy the country by refusing to allow it - all you have is wacky statements gleaned from RW radio.

    The oil that would come through that pipeline is NOT FOR U.S. USE - it's being sent across the heartland of our country to be refined and SOLD OVERSEAS. The jobs it would create are minimal and temporary and in no way compensate for the damage to the country. Try getting some REAL FACTS instead of repeating RW platitudes.
     
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    It's a no-brainer for Conservatives who know nothing about it except RW propaganda. Do yourself a favor and do some research of your own.
     
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    Please site a credible source that ANY money was paid back to the government by Solyndra or any of the other now bankrupt solar energy companies.
     
  16. AnnaK

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    Studies of the project have NOT been completed and it's the Repubs who are trying to jam it through before the American people have enough information to know whether they support it or not.

    "20,000 to 1,000,000" jobs is BS. Whatever jobs are created would mostly be filled by Canadians - employees of TransCanada. The others would be the same as for the first pipeline - low-paying, temporary jobs. How long will it take to build the pipeline - a year? Two? What happens to the jobs when it's completed? The steel they use won't even be purchased in the U.S. and all the "support jobs" that spring up will also be gone in a year or two - unless they're planning to keep 20,000 to 1,000,000 employees who need to eat and have a place to sleep attached to the pipeline after it's finished?

    The joke IMHO is that Conservatives are so easily duped into believing anything they're told.
     
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    I guess you dint get the memo that Solyndra was funded Via taxpayer
    stimulus and a net loss of $540 Million.
     
  18. James Cessna

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    Ha-Ha!

    Very good, Foolardi!

    You get 5 stars for this one!

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    I guess Obama and crew could probably make some sort of claim that
    Solyndra did in fact make good on their loss.Then again this coming
    from a shill who refused even a little bit of Vetting during his Campaign,
    even his Middle name was off Limits and any mention of any religion
    as a kid.
    Obama and crew are 100% bona fide corrupt cheap carny barkers.
    Fast & Furious is further proof.
    Transparency is the panultimate proof.Obama won't even allow any
    College Transcripts be known.Or their funding.How did Obama PAY for
    his Higher Education.
     
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    I sincerely recommend a spell check. Firefox is very good.
    Reported.
     
  21. Foolardi

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    Then come out and admit what is obvious.That it WASN'T good for
    Canada.Because you can't.It was practically a gold mine for Canada.
    You are merely acting the Obama and crew sycophant.
    Whatever silly Obama line of defense is applicable.
    What about Herr Obama using Hillary as the Foil.
     
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    Thank you Foolardi for that accurate information.
     
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    Didja read the posts preceding yours about the pipeline ?

    That's over 100,000 jobs already.....and that does not fully consider the multiplier effect of ancillary jobs from that.

    Furthermore, on land and offshore energy exploitation denied by the Crazed Commie Ideologue, The Political Charlatan, Racist Obummer.
     
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    I think that settles it, he has no interest in jobs or the energy future of this country. It's all about his political future.
     
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    Cut corporate taxes as he FINALLY has been forced to accept it seems.
    Stop Obamacare.
    Stop anymore stimulus schemes.
    Open up MORE drilling.
    Pass the pipeline legislation.
    Let the housing market correct itself and stop his silly schemes.
    Eliminate his new consumer protection department.
    Put a moratorium on new regulations.
    Make the Bush tax rate cuts permanent.
    Stop extending unemployment.
    Stop the class warfare.
    Initiate tax reform with a flat tax or the Fair Tax.
    Get out of the way.
     

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