Dems propose 'Reasonable Profits Board' to regulate oil company profits

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  1. Mushroom

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    There are not a lot of oil wells being drilled. And in case you have been under a rock, the EPA currently rejects pretty much all applications.

    And I am not sure what pipeline you are talking about. Could you please give us some kind of reference to this mystery pipeline, and what that has to do with "green energy"? Because you lost me there.

    However, I am aware of the battle over the Keystone Pipeline. But this is not designed to take oil "through America", only from Canada to the Gulf Coast.
     
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    Good because clean energy is far more efficient and better for then economy than oil
    I see so when did Nebraska, and Texas seced from AMuerca?
     
  3. Consmike

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    When you tax 100%, the government is essentially taking over the company. People need to open your minds and think for once.

    And yes we do need gas and oil. There are no alternatives cheaper. Tell me what is cheapr than Diesel to transport goods on tractor trailers? nothing, not a (*)(*)(*)(*) (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing.
     
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    you're full of bull crap....wind is .8% of our energy needs, solar is .2% of our energy needs and the rest is just crap too.


    And you use no oil, gas, electric in your life...is that right???
     
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    yes finally they are doing what i advocate for, GOVERNMENT SETTING PRICES.

    everyones always complaining that if we raise taxes on business they will pass it to the consumer but here they are forced to absorb higher taxes.

    democrats can set prices so they can't make excessive profits during oil spikes
     
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    The proposal wasn't to tax 100% it was to tax 100% of profits. Try not to lie kk.
    Look up 7 posts you'll notice 5 different studies showing that oil/coal cost more then clean energy and also creates 3 times less jobs
     
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    Current estimates with current technology show that wind alone can produce 20% of our energy needs, meaning that you are a liar.
    http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy08osti/41869.pdf
     
  8. Consmike

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    ummm no (*)(*)(*)(*). 100% of profits is a 100% tax. its an income tax same as taxing citizens 100% of their income.

    Coal, oil and gasoline are the cheapest and best.

    I will ask again for you to tell me how you are going to transport goods on clean energy?

    The (*)(*)(*)(*) Chevy volt can only go 40 miles on a charge....and its a small passenger car.

    BTW-You do realize that most electricity is made with coal right?
     
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    Yeah, how is that working out for Venezuela James? Or are you another Sean Penn that puts Chavez on a hero pedestal?

    I noticed you never answered Rapunzel's question about you using oil, so we can assume you are a hypocrite and you do use oil/gas.

    I have no problem at all finding another energy source James, I hope I live long enough to see America be able to tell the middle east terror nations to go (*)(*)(*)(*) themselves. There has not been one viable weening off oil plan proposed, so the reality is, we just can't stop one source and start another. Solar homes lack the technology as of now, and it remains extremely expensive for the average citizen.

    So in your plan, do you want to eliminate all jet travel, swimming pools in homes, families that own multiple cars, regulate all energy to homes, regulate travel, etc. etc.?

    What to you plan on replacing our roads with? What about all plastic material, do you want to eliminate that also?

    I don't think any rational American is against an alternative to oil/gas, but it is not rational to do it in your time frame.
     
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    Naw, it means yer so full of poo, ya can't see...

    How long do ya think it'll take to build, 'n put on line all those windy mills,..??

    Where are ya gonna put 'em,..??
    How are ya gonna transport the electricity,..??

    It's purely a pipe dream that'll never happen, 'cause it Can't happen...

    Btw,... Which rock are ya livin' under,..??
    Obviously, yer not livin' in the same world as the rest of Us...
     
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    Trains run on diesel or electricity, electricity is mostly made from coal.

    I still want to know what is going to move goods by not using coal or fuel.
     
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    That is easy Mike, a wheelbarrow of course! lol!
     
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    You produce the 'scientific' studies but do not explain why, with the hundreds of billions invested, so far the result has been too little energy at too high a cost with too few jobs, despite of the claims in the papers. You seem to confuse papers with real life.
     
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    I checked your sources and according to the environmentalists conducting the "study's" all of the extra costs are hidden.

    Meaning that only the liberals writing the study can see them.

    That may be OK for the typical Obama voters but it's not good enough for the rest of us.

    What the partisans are doing by using that argument is admitting that green energy costs more and cannot compete without help from the government.

    Which makes a perfect fit for most liberals who think the governs net should run everything anyway.
     
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    I guess he uses a computer made out of wood, and powered by thermal steam. :-D
     
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    Well if you look at the actual economic data instead of being an ignorant partisan hack you’d notice that Venezuela under Chaves has had double digit yearly GDP growth, falls in unemployment and a 60% fall in poverty
    I see so you think me living makes me a hypocrite. Using logic doesn’t seem to be something you can do.
    Clean energy sources cost half as much as coal and oil you saying that cheaper cleaner energy isn’t an alternative is just you being an ignorant partisan hack



    Just as long as it would take to build new coal plans, oil wells and mining facilities.
    Well solar panels are going to go were there’s sun, wind turbines were there’s wind, wave and tidal plans were there’s ocean, hydro where there’s rivers, biofuel(non-food) were there’s organic material
    And so on and so on
    Seriously? You’ve never heard of power lines or electric cords? Maybe if you didn’t spend so much time in the 1800 century you’d be aware of technology that’s been around for 60 years plus

    You’re the one who didn’t know what trains, cars or electric cords were

    Yes and wind turbines, solar panels tidal/wave plants, biofuels, hydropower and geothermal plans all produce electricity.
    I mean Jesus how are you unaware that solar panels produce electricity?

    I’ve already extensively showed that clean energy has half the cost of fossil fuels while creating 3 times the jobs. Just because you ignore facts doesn’t make them not true
     
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    No, you have extensively claimed that but you have not explained why no one in the real world sees those cost cuts or jobs.
     
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    I wish the government would REGULATE themselves....
     
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    Communism doesn't turn anything over to "the workers" it turns it over to the political class who then enslave the workers after killing off the owners.
     

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