Why do any Americans vote Republican Part the Second

I'll give you jthjorp 24.

But not this guy:

 

Now, lest we forget what this thread is about:

 

I think I agree. Therefore, I am, in agreement. And I must exist, if I am questioning if I agree or not.

Beyond that, the question of why Republicans need voters, or voters need Republicans, escapes me, given their stated purpose for existence, which is to make Obama a one term president, and to make sure that the 10% of US population with 2/3rds share of GDP or 10 Trilliion dollars, pay no more than 1/10th of that share back and no more than 1/3rd of the Annual US budget. Somehow, they have convinced some of the middleclass, that although their share of GDP is only about 4 Trillion dollars, that they must bear the burden of paying for 2/3rd of the Budget, or 2 Trillion dollars, which is HALF of their share of GDP.

So maybe its a problem with an inability to understand that if you enjoy 2/3rds of a pie, you are expected to pay 2/3rds of a budget. And if you have 1/3rd of the pie, you are only expected to pay 1/3rd of the budget. And if you have only a bare sliver of the pie, or just a 1/10th slice, of which you cannot divide further, lest you starve, that you do not have to pay back anything.

 

I vote conservative, but I have no use for organized religion.

I vote conservative, but it has nothing to do with "good vs. evil".

Some reasons why I vote Conservative:

Environmental - Liberals seem to believe that the Environment is paramount and ALL things, including jobs, progress, and human life should come second to Environmental concerns. While I believe the Environment is VERY important, I also believe that the Environment is not as fragile as the liberals tend to dictate. I believe there is a point of compromise that can be reached. While the Republicans do tend to be on the opposite extreme when it comes to the Environment, they also do tend to keep the Environment in mind...even if it is only because of outside pressure to do so.

With a Liberal, there seems to be no compromise. They seem to believe that change must come over night AT ANY COST. If something has a POSSIBILITY of harming the Environment, it must not be allowed....period.....even if that action does no actual significant damage to the Environment.

Social Equality - I believe in hard work and being rewarded for that hard work. Liberals seem to want to ride the backs of those that work hard and promote equality, especially financial equality, for all, even those that refuse to work hard for what they receive. They seem to see "laziness" as a positive trait in a person. I am all for helping those in their time of need, but I do not like providing for those that will not help themselves first.

When I was growing up, for a person to ask for a handout was unheard of and rare. People would be embarrassed to have to rely on help from their neighbor or the Government without paying (in some fashion or other) for that help. Today, people tend to have a sense of being "victimized" and that society "owes them"....a feelings encouraged by most Liberals.

Political Correctness - Yes, personal feelings are important. However, with the Liberal agenda, this country has gone way past the extreme in attempts to insure that nobody's feelings are hurt. It is not possible. Some people are going to have hurt feelings at times. I am against actions that intentionally harm other or their feelings, but there becomes a point where this is carried to ridiculous extremes. These extremes have cause more damage to this country than most people realize.

Don't have must time for this post, but those are just some of the reasons why I favor Conservatism. I understand that Conservatism isn't always the best answer, but it is more in line with my beliefs.

 

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What makes people vote Republican? Why in particular do working class and rural Americans usually vote for pro-business Republicans when their economic interests would seem better served by Democratic policies?

…now that we can map the brains, genes, and unconscious attitudes of conservatives, we have refined our diagnosis: conservatism is a partially heritable personality trait that predisposes some people to be cognitively inflexible, fond of hierarchy, and inordinately afraid of uncertainty, change, and death. People vote Republican because Republicans offer "moral clarity"—a simple vision of good and evil that activates deep seated fears in much of the electorate.

Although this Professor has not accurately portrayed why I vote Republican, I do see some valid points.

Best Point IMO "Moral Clarity": Republican Rhetoric thrives off of demonization of the opposition. Example: Left=Socialism=Step Closer to Communism=Soviet Union. Rush Limbaugh has made a career out of this type of propaganda. I'm sure Rush has convinced some people to vote Republican using this tactic, but I am not one of them.

Fondness of Hierarchy is another good point, and I guess valid to smaller extent for myself. Capitalism has hierarchy embedded into, and while I don't vote because of it, I have no problem with Hierarchies to some extent.

Loathing to change is another good point. When I talk to fellow Republican voters I have noticed that older Republican voters tend to be most influenced with this. I find myself agreeing with them on things for totally different reasons (i.e. they just don't like change)

I severely disagree with one reason given : Cognitive Inflexibility. This trait is found on both sides of the spectrum.

That being said, I still don't think it accurately portrays me, and while it may accurately portray many Republican voters, I could come up with voting behaviors on the left side that mirror these in lack of logic.

I'll re-phrase the quote in a new light:

...now that we can map the brains, genes, and unconscious attitudes of liberals, we have refined our diagnosis: liberalism is a partially heritable personality trait that predisposes some people to be cognitively inflexible, fondness of dependency, and inordinately afraid of other people succeeding, taking responsibility for oneself, and death. People vote Democrat because Democrats offer "moral clarity"—Those that make more money should take care of those who do not, regardless of the ramifications of this sentiment.

I think the lines here are much more gray than people would admit. I agree with a lot of Liberal rhetoric, I just don't think the means by which they try to attain them work in the real world.

 

There is no debating or having civil discussions with Awryly. I've learned that much on this forum. I just like to throw his responses right back at him.

I mean seriously, starting 2 threads asking why ANYONE votes Republican??? How ridiculous.

 

Maybe he's just trying to figure out who really DOES vote republican besides the very wealthy and rednecks. I'd certainly like to know.

 

I think you know the answer to that. How dare someone believe in smaller government? What a concept.

 

Yes the democrat 'Leftist"war criminals ,Obama ,Cintonj ,Johnson ,Carter,JFK,I see your point about the millions they killed ,Veitnam ,iraq,Afghanistan ,WW2 the democrats are the War Party of the US Imperialism.

Republicans can do some damage don't get me wrong but full on mayhem and Inter-Imperialist War then no-can like a Democrat can.

Wonder how they will be when the Tearepublicans finally implode the other prop of US Imperialism.

 

If only if were that simple. How dare someone believe raising taxes on billionaires that can afford it might be a good idea in a dying economy. What a concept.

 

Yeah. Punish people that are more successful than you. Why is it the responsibility of people who have succeeded to pay for all these liberal spending programs???

Cut the spending. You can always count on liberals rewarding failure. Make the successful pay for everything... lets give people who sit on their ass all day something for doing nothing.

 

Why? Well because a lot of you corporate type rapists have "earned" your wealth, how do we say, "unethically"? I won't mention decency or morality because large sums of cash corrupts (that's been proven too), and I know the right doesn't advocate decency or morality.

Why give something for nothing..blah, blah? Well, why give cash incentives for people that don't need it to begin with? Oh...and I bet if a tornado blew your domicile away, you'd be the first in line demanding the government "give you assistance"...right?

Why don't we just cut the crap and call a spade a spade? You mean black people drinkin' their Colt 45's on their porch everyday and voting for Obama, right? Fact is son...many NEED assistance, and as long as you have super rich pigs that routinely take about 500 times more than they'll ever need from society, then you'll have needy people on the other end of the spectrum that you'll have to help out too.

Bottom line...you white racists want the black man out of office. Say it. It would be a good thing to be honest on a public forum and anonymously once in a while.

 

So you are calling me a racist because I don't support Obama???

 

Once the truly self thinking and intelligent among us start looking into things. You see what is really behind the Dem party, and you have no choice.

So it's not voting FOR the GOP, it's voting AGAINST the way evil Dems.

 

No, I'm just assuming you're a racist. Most right wingers are.

 

I use the same mentality in reverse when it comes to voting for right wing obstructionists. We hate you...you hate us. (gee...that was productive).

 

Actually you are completely wrong. ALL the US Jim Crow laws came from you Dems.

But you strike me as the type that facts are your enemy...

 

I've read this before. It also explains why a lot of religious people are conservative (extreme fear of death), and why conservatives end up demonizing illegal immigrants and Muslims. I've seen many a bigoted statements on here directed towards minority groups, and it saddens me. But if there is a psychological basis beyond the individual's control, I cannot fault them for it.

 

...and you strike me as the type where facts are ignored or stricken from history when it highlights a republican screw up.

Republicans suck whale snot. We hate you...you hate us. Fair enough?

 

I bet you don't think these people are racist. I'm sure they are considered model citizens in your mind.
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Forgive them if you must.

But don't vote for them.

 

And Gingrich will have him paying even less than he does already.

If I were Romney, I would vote for Gingrich.

If I were a poor Republican, as many are, heaven only knows who I would vote for.

 

Whichever candidate offers the smallest tax rate. So Ron Paul.

 

I vote Republican because I find the tenets of Social Democracy morally abhorrent to my Protestant Work Ethic.

 

As Silicon proves, its probably due more to religious indoctrination than anything else, which misleads some people to vote for Corporate America Republicans who want to give the top 1% an even greater tax break. Why do not you Silicon protestants start another party and really advocate true conservative values related to actual real work ethic,which is closer to what Adam Smith was really advocating, as opposed to calling loan sharking and venture capitalism "work".Since I presume Silicon protestants are probably middleclass, why would you support making Middleclass pay 2 Trilllion of US yearly Budget, out of their share of only 4 Trillion of GDP, while the upper 10%, pay only 1/3rd or 1 Trillion, out of their share of GDP which is 10Trillion?