We will simply have to disagree....I believe a fetus is a human person and they have the right to life, or at least the opportunity to live....
Interesting view point. However, if both are consenting adults, they both know the potential consequences.....therefore by mating they are...
Alas....I tried. Yes, it is a circular argument ALSO because others can't accept the facts that I have presented to them. By reverse, since you...
There is no written law of man that says that's a woman's duty. As there is no written law of man that says a fetus is not a person. We are in...
I appreciate the participation and comments....it definitely has given me much to consider and pray about. I have three basic arguments from the...
No, you did not, the constitution says you have to be born here to be a citizen. It does not say you have to be born here to be a person. By your...
Yes, you present two of the three arguments I've seen so far. By your first argument, other than your opinion, what evidence do you have that...
First, you have no idea how special her needs are or her condition so that is a statement without validity. If you mean there are conditions which...
As you may have read in my previous posts, I have asked to continue the religious portions of this conversation in that forum but I am not aware...
No, removing the fetus itself is an act of aggression, and doing so would be the same murder, in my opinion anyway. But, I certainly can...
Whew....go get some work done and go to dinner.....4 more pages. I will try to wade through a few before church this morning but there certainly...
I should have clarified, I vehemently disagree that a zygote is not human. No problem at all divulging my religion, I am a Christian. Just...
Agreed, there are times when killing is justified, but not murder. Murder is not only a legal term, but moral term (hence my reference to the...
Excellent argument, and I can appreciate your literal semantic approach. So my second question then to you specifically is, is abortion "right",...
I would love to continue this discussion. Would you like to start another thread on the religious section? You kick it off and I'll jump in with...
Sorry Frank, unintentional, missed that one when I was on my phone apparently. I appreciate you sharing your new viewpoint, no sarcasm at all. I...
Also, interesting dichotomy Thomas Jefferson eh? ""God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure...
Agreed, a percentage, but certainly not the majority. If it had been, you would not read "God" in the Declaration of Independence. And still, men...
No, not obtuse, I just am requesting you to show me the law that says a fetus has to be born to be a person. Please just show me that law. You...
I'm with you on that one. I think one explanation is where it happened.....Chicago.....and what are their concealed carry laws? :roll:
Yes, I love the Constitution....but nowhere does that say you must be born to be a person....it says you must be born to be a citizen. So if you...
Obviously we will never convince the other and both think we are right. I see your points, and though vehemently disagree with you, I do thank you...
I was honest in my first thread, I posed the wording as politely as I could for the passion and pain that exists in the subject. I chose poorly...
Again, just because the majority agrees does not make it right. The majority agreed in slavery in the 1700's. The majority is simply mob rule....
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