‘STAND UP’ Dems’ Iron Lady Challenges GOP

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    ‘STAND UP’ Dems’ Iron Lady Challenges GOP

    By S Siddiqui & M McAuliff | Huffington Post | 11/09/2013 1:41 pm EST
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    WASHINGTON – “When your opponents' legislative style bears frequent comparison to the antics of angry toddlers, perhaps what's needed is a lead negotiator with a schoolteacher mentality and a knack for discipline.

    Democrats think they may have that in Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, who so famously sticks to the script that reporters are tempted to call her boring.

    She happens to have started her career wrangling obstreperous children - which turns out to have been excellent preparation for the details-oriented approach that Murray has adopted in politics and that she intends to bring to the high-stakes budget negotiations that began last week with Republicans and continue Wednesday.

    "I taught preschool," Murray told The Huffington Post in an interview in her Capitol Hill office this week. "You don't walk into a class with 4-year-olds without a direction of where you're going to go."

    Among the proposals are some $350 billion in entitlement cuts spelled out in the budget the Senate passed in March. Her iron rule is that Republicans get nothing if they are not willing to give something in the way of raising revenue. And replacing the sequester cannot mean simply boosting defense and cutting domestic programs.

    "First of all, it's going to be defense and non-defense. There's going to be revenue that is part of the package, and then if there's revenue, that will kind of outline what we're willing to give in terms of spending cuts," Murray said.

    "We're not going to cut Medicare and impact benefits for seniors to replace defense cuts," she added She said cuts wouldn't include yoking Social Security payments to so-called chained CPI - changing the way inflation is measured so that benefits grow more slowly than under the current inflation index.

    And she thinks the smart thing for Republicans to do is, well, stop being babies.

    "I think the Republicans have to sit back and say, 'Do we want to be part of the governing party system and compromise system, or do we want to be the group in the corner that yells and screams?' " Murray said. "That's what caused the government shutdown, the -- I'm sorry, I used to teach preschool -- the temper tantrum on the floor, to show how somehow they are powerful." And she thinks the smart thing for Republicans to do is, well, stop being babies

    "I have nothing but good things to say about her," Collins told HuffPost. "She's strong, she works very hard, she's no-nonsense, down-to-earth and she knows how to bring people together and get the job done."

    Whatever the talk, few observers expect the conference committee to produce a deal. But with Murray as the calm, reasonable-seeming face of the Democratic position, the stakes may actually be higher for the GOP, whatever Ryan's smarmy opening joke may have suggested.

    "I think there are a lot of people praying that we do our jobs, which is compromise," Murray said. "If the Republicans choose not to and say no revenue, not a dime, nothing, I think that they will feel the backlash and I think many of them will realize that."

    And while she said she believes Republicans would again pay the price for another showdown, Murray insisted she'd prefer a deal.

    "I'm a Democrat. I want Democrats to be in the majority, I want us to be the party that sets the priorities - I'm all for that," she said. "But we also need a strong Republican Party of good people, who come here, who passionately care for things but are also willing to sit down and compromise. That's what makes a democracy work."

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    IMO: As is usually the case when it is time to come out with the plain truth, it is the female legislators that are the adults in the game while the males shout, scream, and assume even more ridiculous positions in trying to justify their behavior.

    Meanwhile the females are working on compromises and solutions to a simple problem while the House babies are engrossed into making government shutdowns, hostage taking, threats and demands upon adult legislators before they will even consider looking at the bill.

    Such histrionics are really 1st grade tactics and are a continuing problem for the republican party.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comparing this woman to Thatcher is like comparing a pedophile with a school teacher because they have an interest in children.
     
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    Sounds like she's already got the majority of the script down pat.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Belittle, marginalize, demean, ascribe negative cognomen. Yep, she's a peach a pure partisan peach.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    "Iron Lady"....nah, that is Harry Reid in drag:

    [​IMG]

    ....and he's foolin' no one. hahahaha!
     
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    ......

    She sure does; you will never see her wince or quit in something she believes in. Hostage taking, obstruction, shutting down the government in retaliation, is singularly juvenile and are destructive behaviors by congressional children, and Patty Murray is correct in calling the republicans children.
     
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    And we all know that name calling is the adult thing to do.....derp!
     
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    Actually she refers to the behaviour rather than the persons as childish I think.

    Which is accurate and fair to all sides.
     
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    OMG....that was such a great response...:roflol:
     
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    hahahaha! Nah, it is name calling.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought some idiot at HuffPo had bandied together some Thatcher quotes for advice on fighting a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)y party... I was looking forward to the laugh... instead they sullied a great leader who would have (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slapped this mawing socialist.
     
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    and you were the one who called Murray Reid in drag?????
     
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    Obama and the Democrats sell the farm in compromises and get too little in return.
    Some may find this "inept".
    I have concluded it is "duplicitous" of Democrats. Disingenuous statements we have heard too often to our loss.
    A way of serving the monied interests, Wall St., the plutocracy while saying,
    "gee we tried but those mean old Republicans, blah blah blah " = RepubloCrats of the Democratic wing.

    On the other hand, what I read of her is; "just another party operative", no big whoop. The Hillary of the West. :blankstare:


    Moi :oldman:
     
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    Yep, and so what? Do you not understand the comparison? Should I make posts that are alot more simple for you?
     
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    What the Republicans should have done with the debt ceiling issue last month was sit on their hands and do nothing. The issue is entirely the result of the Democrats over spending coming into collision with the sequester. Frankly the sequester is the only good thing that has come out of Washington in five years. Oddly enough it came from the Obama White House. The Republicans need to say every time they are asked questions by the media about it they need to say "we need to cut spending to keep under the spending constraints from the White House's Sequester law". They need to say over and over that the ceiling limit is a creation of Obama's
     
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    Yes it is name calling but for the reasons stated it is accurate and fair to all sides and whats more you agree with her.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yes but its the dems who are fiscally responsible ones, they see the need both to cut spending and raise revenue. Republicans only see the need for cutting spending on things they dont like anyway, of course.

    When was the last time any fiscally responsible measure came from a GOP white house?
     
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    Really? I didn't agree with her or her childish namecalling.
     
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    Nah, really you see things from her point of view. Youre a get things done kinda guy who doesnt stand for any nonsense. And when things need to be said you say them, so when you see behaviour that is inappropriate you call it out because thats what grown ups do and therefore thats what you do.
     
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    I am glad you see the light. This woman is clearly a hypocrite. Thanks for agreeing.
     
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    Indeed we can both agree that I see the light. But for the reasons already described, since she was describing behaviour, I cant see why she is a hypocrite. I also cant see why you dont just admit that you do indeed see things her way and that she is no more a hypocrite than you. Come on, just accept it, you like her style.
     
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    Nah, I still say that is Harry Reid in drag.
     
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    And so what? People like to dress up. Live and let live, thats your motto right?
     
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    Who says I'm not letting anyone live? But I am glad you see things my way.
     
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    I do see things your way. It seems youve repeated something about Harry Reid in drag as if its an issue thats all. But we both know its cool and even a credit to the lady for being so alternative. You like and I like her.
     
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    Nah, I don't like any of the super partisan ninnies on the left. They need to be voted out and may very will be.
     

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