‘STAND UP’ Dems’ Iron Lady Challenges GOP

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  1. justoneman

    justoneman New Member

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    Oh my God.. Did you actually straight faced without laughing say that? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
     
  2. creation

    creation New Member

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    Nah you like her and style. In fact youd vote for her if you could, and super partisan ninnies is just a stupid term you made up.

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    In fact dems have agreed to across the board cuts. As this article says.
     
  3. doombug

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    Really? I usually look at a candidate's platform and their experience before I vote for them. I doubt I would vote for her because she is so childish and name calls.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    The Republicans gave them their revenue, way back at the beginning of the year(remember the Fiscal Cliff deal). In case the Dems don't remember, let's use a link for good measure.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2013/01/03/48872/revenue-from-the-fiscal-cliff-deal-in-context/

    The problem with google is that you don't know what link you click on, so I clicked on a Leftist one(American progress) which whines that the tax revenue isn't enough.

    I disagree, it's not that cutting costs has put us in the red(How does that possibly make sense? Reducing spending putting a country in the red). It's the fact that we hardly cut enough.

    Also, given our trade deficit, our national debt, etc. Something strikes me that we'll end up needing "alot more" than 18-22% of GDP taxable to "balance" this unsustainable budget.

    We shouldn't try to balance it at 17 trillion. We should try to reduce that number down, so that we don't have to go on this major tax hike that the Dems would prefer.

    There's never been an economy that has been massively taxed that ever progressed. I personally want to reduce spending, I want money back in private hands, the hands of Middle America.

    Jane and Joe the Plumber do a much better job then <insert politician here> at spending/saving and conserving.
     
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  5. creation

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    Yeah but the thing is, you admire her style and really dont mind what she said in the article because you recognise the need to call a spade a spade because youre a no nonsense kinda guy.
     
  6. creation

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    Ok ok fair enough so how about, cutting spending & raising taxes. Thatll solve it no problem.

    And what would like to cut first and why would it be a sensible move?

    Moreover isnt it deeply ignorant to say that there's never been an economy that has been massively taxed that ever progressed given the hiistory of the US in the 20th century?
     
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    Patty Murray is a nut case.... She is old and moldy and needs to be voted out asap.
     
  8. banchie

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    Lets say turning off your electricity to cut costs spoiled all your meat and veggies, let your lawn die, tripped in darkness & medical bills, alarm didn't work and lost job,

    Now lets apply it to government. Cut educational funding, jobs move overseas, bankrupts nation, fills prisons, swells welfare & unemployment, lowers GDP & lost profits, etc.

    Get it now? Make sense?
     
  9. doombug

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    Yep on the "no nonsense guy". That is why I think she is being childish.
     
  10. creation

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    Yeah, but though you keep saying she is being childish you recognise that calling a spade a spade is indeed appropriate and mature baehaviour in this case and really admire what she said and would have said the same thing in her place due to your no nonsense thingy.
     
  11. doombug

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    No, I really don't admire the left's propaganda.
     
  12. justoneman

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    Democrats never agree to cuts unless it is the military. What the Democrats do without fail is promise cuts in the future for tax increases today. The cuts of course never come.
     
  13. creation

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    Wait a minute, you dont like the lefts prop, but youre cool with the rights?

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    I like your post, but theres no actual historical evidence to back what you say. Because at the same time spending has risen taxes have decreased, thus the public debt problem you have.
     
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    Did I say I was?
     
  15. creation

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    Its the glaring implication of leaving out one side.
     
  16. doombug

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    No it isn't. There are other possibilities. Maybe I think the left is doing an adequate job of countering them but no one is doing enough to call these liberals out. Evere thought of that?
     
  17. justoneman

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    Yes politicians in general have increased spending but the Democrats have been wildly spending for the past 5 years. During these past five years you seem to think taxes have gone down but you are mistaken taxes have been increased just not at a pace that can keep up with the Obama spending.
     
  18. creation

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    No Ive never thought of that because the evidence for that view doesnt exist and thats a stupid idea. Moreover youre not that stupid.
     
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    hey, if the size 12D pumps fit....
     
  20. doombug

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    Just because you ignore something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
     
  21. creation

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    Im not ignoring it because theres plenty of right wing propaganda thats seeks to call out liberals. Google is youre friend.
     
  22. doombug

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    First you say it doesn't exist and then you say it does.....make up your mind.
     
  23. creation

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    LOL. Confusing yourself again.

    Ive stated that the evidence for a lack of 'calling out' the lefts propaganda doesnt exist because there is plenty of right wing propaganda doing just that. The latter statement by me cancels out the former claim by you.

    If youve got evidence of 'the left doing an adequate job of countering them but no one is doing enough to call these liberals out' etc etc then lets hear it. Maybe the benghazi scandal, the IRS nonsense, the fast and furious isnt enough calling out of liberals?....take your pick, maybe youre really correct afterall thats all stupid cooked up nonsense thats been defeated once the evidence comes to light.......
     
  24. doombug

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    "EVidence for something that doesn't exist"? THat makes no sense and you know it. Too bad you need to hide behind confusing language and strawmen.
     
  25. creation

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    LOL and WOW. So youre going to tell me that the lack of flying pigs cant be evidence that pigs cant fly? Look nevermind, lets move beyond 'confusing language and strawmen' as you say quite clearly.

    Although here the only one here who is confused is you lets clear your mind, just tell me or show me how despite all the conservative crap on the net and airwaves there 'isnt enough calling out of left wing propaganda'..
     

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