‘no mention of Ginni’

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Idi Amin was a foreigner; that would not have been allowed. However, any American with whom I had a personal friendship would have been perfectly free to offer, and I to accept.
     
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    Really, I doubt that.
     
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    What the SON of the Vice President of The United States?
     
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    What office does he hold in Biden's administration?
     
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  5. Jack Hays

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    I filled out that form every year.
     
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    That's the problem. He does not hold office yet he has access to daddy's corvette with the classified documents in the garage of the house uncle Biden gave him to live in.
     
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    Uh any evidence whatever that this effected in any way the decisions made by Thomas?
     
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    It appears that both Mr. Hunter Biden and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas have, to use a quote from Mr. Desi Arnaz, 'some 'splainin' to do.'

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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  10. Lee Atwater

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    Unless you are a SC justice. Thus creating, at the least, an appearance of impropriety. This stuff isn't hard. It's government service 101. But Clarence makes up part of the radical conservative court so you feel you must ignore the obvious.
     
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    Personal friendship-based activities are generally exempt for everyone.
     
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    That's quite a few allegations without a shred of proof. Or did you once again solve a case for the FBI?
     
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    since the country began there has been political corruption ...

    Nixon was the last president that was actually reprimanded for corrupt behavior.

    and the last president that was not slimey and corrupt was Jimmy Carter

    these days both sides are corrupt and it is accepted and swept under the rug

    this thread for example, shows how a billionaire can buy a supreme court judge and the only reply from the right is below

    the Qaloons say about Clarence Thomas " SO WHAT?? the democrats are also corrupt"

    instead of holding their own to a higher standard both sides just point at the other and say "you do it to"

    2 wrongs dont make it right ...

    somebody must decide just because the other side is corrupt does not excuse their own
    corruption. somebody must grow a pair and stand up to these power crazed lunatics

    corruption will be the reason this country falls

    if you look at what causes so many immigrants to leave their home country to search for a better life here

    there is ONE common thing in all the countries sending their people to the USA.. THEY ARE ALL POLITICALLY CORRUPT

    retirees are leaving the USA in droves searching for a better life ..

    the corruption in this country is having an effect on people lives more than most think...

    soon it won't be only retirees leavng for a better life
     
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    Fine, whatever.
     
  15. Grey Matter

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    I suppose that my attempt to draw upon your personal experience in federal employment is fundamentally a bit of a bust.

    It is apparently exceedingly rare that any federal sentences involve anything that falls under the bribery class of crimes.

    For example, this link suggests it is all-but-not-a-problem in cases of federal prosecutorial success, with a whopping 156/57287 cases sent to sentencing.

    https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Bribery_FY21.pdf

    Taking this at face value there are still a couple of factors that may belie the meaning of the statistic.

    Possibly it is very difficult to prove and a lot of folks get away with it for that reason, even if it has been brought to federal prosecutors' attention and they have pursued the case.

    So, A, this one link doesn't give the number of cases tried and lost.

    Secondly, B, is the impossible to attain metric of the unknown number of folks that accepted benefits and provided rewards off the books in either the public or private sector.

    Third, C, this source doesn't quite account for any classification of which of these poor unlucky folks worked as elected officials, government employees, or non government folks.

    Bribery, I just had a little computer based training session on this at work this morning.

    Seems I understand it well enough.

    Basically, it involves being compensated with benefits for showing favor to those providing the benefits.

    The favor shown can take multiple forms.

    I am actually in a position for the first time in my career where I could be tempted by this, by awarding contracts to service providers and receiving some form of kickback.

    My current company would consider something as trivial by comparison with what Thomas received as me being taken to lunch at an expensive restaurant and subsequently awarding a contract to a services organization for $250k, an amount of money in my industry that typically needs to be divided by about $10k to be put into the average non-billionaire's perspective.

    In the case of Thomas, we are having a discussion that involves a rather interesting character in this Harlan Crow fellow. Dashiell Hammett and John Houston would be hard-pressed to come up with a more interesting character.

    Here again is the link to a brief article about Harlan Crow,

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...thomas-supreme-court-nazi-memorabilia/673696/

    It is fascinating, this article, this guy actually collects a lot of really dark objects:

    Apparently, Harlan has an intense interest in the Fate of Nations.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-ent...il-and-his-collection-of-artifacts-and-books/

    And, he has exactly what interest in befriending Clarence Thomas?
     
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    I have no interest in Harlan Crow's tastes or the details of his friendship with Thomas. I restrict my point to what I know, which is that federal officers have wide latitude in the personal friendships with Americans.
     
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    Well, in that case let's diverge a bit from the topic. What punishment befell the CIA guys running the rogue cocaine op? Any prison time for them? I'm digging this FX series right now, Snowfall. And, finding it hard to believe it actually happened. Truth again being stranger than fiction. J.G. Ballard barely comes close to this CIA batshit cray operation.

    I've got a paperback on it as well, terse reading though and I haven't made any progress on it.

    But, interestingly enough I see this sentence:

    "Disingenuous denial has long been a specialty of the Central Intelligence Agency."
     
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    Nothing, because it never happened.
     
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    I understand. Very clearly. Thank you so much.
     
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    As you wish.
     
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    Exposing evidence of legal and ethical violations is not an attack. Mischaracterizing it as such is hyperbolic, biased, nonsense.
     
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    Other judges and Justices have made errors and omissions on federal financial disclosure forms (including Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson omitting some of her own and her husband's income). It can't be that disclosure errors are okay if you're the "right kind" of black judge.
     
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    The hyenas keep trying to undo election results.

    ". . . What we have isn’t a crisis of legitimacy so much as a campaign of delegitimization. It’s been waged for years, as Republican efforts to change the makeup of the Court have borne fruit. We saw it in the circus of the Brett Kavanaugh hearings back in 2019. We saw it in calls to pack the Court, an idea so radical that no less a meddler than FDR backed off it. And we saw it last year in the protests at Supreme Court justices’ homes, in the death threats sent to the Court, and, almost certainly, in the leak of an early draft of Samuel Alito’s Dobbs opinion. As this magazine goes to press, a flurry of mostly specious stories about the court’s conservative justices have been published in quick succession by left-wing outlets. This is very clearly journalism with an agenda: the goal is to chip away at the legitimacy of the court. . . . "

    The Campaign Against the Supreme Court's Legitimacy
    The Spectator World

    It's important to remember that there's a difference between critiquing the Supreme Court and delegitimizing it. Read More
     

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