‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

Well, it's reality.

Which is complicated.

 

Yet the spectrums are real.

Go figure.

 

It can be a problem.

But even then, women who are not in a certain place on the spectrum may be discriminated against.

The allegedly hyperandrogenist Caster Semenya for instance.

Should women like this not be allowed to compete?

Should men over a certain height not be permitted to play basketball if so?

It's complicated, and that's due to the spectrums.

 

That's an interesting perspective I haven't seen before.

 

The only problem with your claim is that it doesn't allow for hermaphrodites, which would go somewhere around .5. So, totally not binary.

If we can allow there are those halfway between 0 and 1, logic dictates that there exists every other decimal between 0 - 1.

Spectrum.

 

How about the many more who cant pass AND have not gone through the procedure and insist upon using the womens restroom?

 

Like I've been saying, there are a ton of truly ugly people out there. There's a lot of women who look more like men than women. My grandmother was one of them, light mustache & beard included. (Russian women are hairy.)

Not sure what to do other than have a security guard at every bathroom entry to pat down people claiming female status.

What's your suggestion?

 

My first suggestion would be to get rid of gendered restrooms altogether. However, given my libertarian leanings, that remains up to a private business's decision. That said as an alternative to a security guard place cameras in the restrooms. Obviously not in such a position as to be able to see into the stalls, but if you have coverage in such a manner as to have a view perpendicular to the stall doors, you can see if someone is perving in the restroom or just entering a stall to use it.

 

You seem to be overly focused on the ugly part. THE RELEVANT characteristic would be that the transgendered "woman" in the womens bathroom has a fully functioning dick while a transgendered man in the womens restroom, no matter how many muscle building hormones he takes, does not. Restrooms weren't segregated because women are feminine and men are masculine.

My suggestion? Get the damned federal government out of the bathroom issue. And I think segregating bathrooms by SEX seems to work just fine.

 

Get the government out. Got it. I agree completely. Without government, though, you will have no idea if someone in the bathroom has dangly bits.

 

I'm against cameras in the bathrooms, personally. I vote we keep it as it has been for a long, long time. Down here in S Florida, we have numerous establishments with gender neutral bathrooms. Nobody has a hissy fit about it. Seems perfectly normal to me.

 

Really wasn't an issue before. It only became an issue when someone in government decided segregating bathrooms by sex is purposeful discrimination against the transgendered that has to be stopped. Giving the guy who insists upon using the womans restroom a legal cause of action against anyone who hinders his bathroom choice.

 

Agree completely. Get government out of it and handle any problems that arise on a case-by-case basis. Should men in wigs start molesting girls in the restroom, action may be needed. We created a law to address a non-issue.

 

It was defined into existence by the Obama Administration, so why can't Trump reverse it?

If you want these things more permanent, you need to do it through congress.

 

What exactly do you think will be seen if we are insuring that cameras are not aimed at stalls themselves? I would think that if someone is walking around the common area of a restroom pants down then they are a problem to begin with.

 

How about backscatter scaners at restroom doors. The live feed goes to monitors at each urinal and in every stall. Then current occupants of restrooms can see what’s imminent and take evasive actions if necessary.

That’s all I got...

 

And they should ALL consider that prior to transitioning. A permanent transition means ruling out 99% us as potential mates. Or to put it another way, a 99% likelihood of lifelong involuntary celibacy.

 

this discussion is not about the small number of people with birth defects. it's about transgender people (the vast majority of whom are not hermaphrodites).

 

Yes, all manner of things are 'real' because we think them.

 

Apparently the desire to detransition is a strong one, but if they have been surgically mutilated, that's not really much of an option.

 

Our urges (apart from the staying alive ones .. eating/sleeping etc) are not normally the deciders of our actions, beyond the age of about 8. No matter how 'strong' they might be.

And surgical mutilation isn't the reason trans people can't find mates. It's as stated in my other post: when it comes to sex/romance, they are ALWAYS regarded as their original (actual) gender by potential mates, not the one they are pretending to be.

 

I can guarantee you that your always statement is factually false.

 

okay, change it to 99.9% of the time.

 

You want to comment on how this will affect Intersex people or are you just dissing those who disagree with you?

 

It is tough to tell what people are nowadays. This gals account says 'queer' yet she looks like she married a man. Is the man she married a transman? (A woman that turns into a man.)