“TRUMP ASKED US TO GO HOME”; Video Re-Surfaces Of Jacob Chansley Urging Peace

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    Those who were killed by police were resisting arrest and made threatening gestures to those same policemen. They were not shot immediately by those officers without those officers following the escalation of violence procedures. Bryd shoud have arrested and tried for what he did. Instead he was "exonerated" within hours of Babbit's death.
     
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    And convicted and sentenced.
     
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    Not to mention the looting and assaults that took place. Typical democrat double standards
     
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    The police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt got off because of the political opinion of his victim and his own.
     
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    I saw some photos of nazi soldiers sitting at a Paris cafe laughing and enjoying themselves in 1940--clearly they were there on a peaceful mission.

    Lol!
     
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    Except that thd Nazi’s didn’t go home after ~ 3 hours.
     
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    True, but the point alluded to in the analogy is not time dependent.
     
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    Total BS Op.

    The time frame is everything. We all know that ultimately, Trump was forced to ask people to go home and he did do that, but he did it hours after he should have and was asked to do so. He "reluctantly" made the statement about 3+ hours after the attack had begun. Trying to cover that up is an attempt to hide the truth and not put blame where blame is deserved.

    Geezus Christ, you are doing exactly what the Republicans accuse the Democrats of doing, lying to cover up the truth. That is called being a hypocrite.
     
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    Of course it’s time dependent. The trespassing individuals made a statement and then went home. They were not armed, there were injuries, one of the trespassing individuals was the victim of a homicide, they did minimal damage, for they most part were well behaved and cordial toward the police, and after a couple of hours went home.

    There is no comparison at all to what Nazi Germany did in the WWII.
     
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    No comparison between Trump's deeds and Nazi atrocities are being made.

    It's a comparison of principles, not deeds, and therefore, not time dependent.

    Please reread the post.
     
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    Yes, that is the 1000 or so protesters who were already at the capitol and before Trump finished his speech on the steps of the Supreme Court. I just don't think you understand that there were two separate groups out there and are attempting to make them into one big group.
     
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    No one occupied a police station. Some protesters did occupy six city blocks in Seattle in which a police station closed for officer's safety, but they didn't occupy it. In Minneapolis, protesters there set a police station ablaze. That was two protests in two cities when you had multiple protests in multiple cities. Here where I live, the protesters pretty much walked through downtown and ended in the police HQ building just west of Downtown demanding police reform, but no property was damaged and they dispersed eventually. It was peaceful in my city and in many other cities. But again, you have to separate the few that destroyed private property and those that didn't. What you and others are doing is trying to perform guilty by association. I am not doing that, even with Trump supporters. Furthermore, social justice protests are in no way similar to shutting down the federal government. Laws are applied to the facts at hand, butt somehow you think that even MLK should have been charged in his day for "rebellion" against the state. And that is all I need to know from you.
     
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    I am talking about individuals. I am not talking about groups.
     
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    Those few hundred unarmed people who entered the Capital Building and stayed for ~ 3 hours were protesting what they believed was a fraudulent election. They were making a statement. They were not attempting an insurrection.
     
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    The Minneapolis police station was occupied after the police were ordered to abandon it.

    MLK was arrested multiple times.
     
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    Well, the so called investigation didnt involve interviewing the officer who shot Babbit, he wouldnt talk to them , AND he could of chosen to let the 3 capitol police and the 4 other officers in tactical gear who were with Ashley on her side of the door, pull her back from the window. 7 officers vs one 120lb woman wouldnt take much effort.
     
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    You should include the longer list of unarmed white males shot by the police.
     
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    And include the fact that ~ 10 per year are shot by police with ~ 90% of those shootings ruled justified by a court of law or multi week internal investigation. Not to mention that thousands of black individuals are killed by other black individuals every year. It’s very clear where the danger resides in the black community. And it’s not the police.
     
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    Will Fox stand behind Tucks and gear up for another defamation lawsuit?


    'Pro-Trump protester Ray Epps seeks retraction of conspiracy theory from Tucker Carlson'

    "Epps' lawyer demanded the Fox News host issue a "formal on-air apology for the lies” spread about his client."

    snip:

    "In a letter to Carlson and Fox News general counsel Bernard Gugar, Michael Teter, a lawyer for Epps, said the Fox News host “persists with his assault on the truth” by pushing “fanciful notions” regarding Epps’ involvement in the Capitol attack that have “demonstrably (and already proven to be) false.”

    Teter demanded that Carlson and Fox News publicly retract the claim that Epps was working for the federal government during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, and the claim that Epps “acted as an instigator or provocateur of the insurrection.”

    “We expect that you will give the same airtime in retracting these falsehoods as you spent amplifying them,” Teter wrote. “Further, Mr. Carlson and Fox News must issue a formal on-air apology for the lies you have spread about Mr. Epps.”

    cont:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...lic-retraction-conspiracy-theory-tu-rcna76363
     
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    Where have these claims been proven false? Epps was never arrested and tried in a court of law. He is on video tape instigating the January 6 riot and illegal trespassing into the Capital Building. And there is testimony of him doing the same the day before. Why was Epps never forced to prove his innocence in a court of law unlike others who wandered into ghe Capital Building through open doors with police officers standing next the doors, looked around for a few minutes, and left soon to be arrested.

    Mr. Carlson’s show is an opinion show. He is not the only one who has speculated on Epps involvement with federal authorities. Is Epps going to sue all those people, journalists, and authors?

    The headline in the above post saws it all - “theory”. Theories are speculative. They are not proven. Epps’ lawyer knows that. He is looking for a settlement.
     
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    Link that shows Epps entered the capital building.
    I've only read that he didn't enter it,

    I'm going to post the letter.
     
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    here's the letter sent to Carlson and Fox from Ebb's attorney.
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    I did not claim that he entered. But it creates even more suspicion that he instigated the trespassing but did not enter the building. Why was he not arrested, charged, tried, and questioned on this under oath and penalty of perjury.
     
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    The letter is meaningless.
     

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