“Weird” is the newest low of this sad political campaign

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Not at all.

    In fact, other than blanket public denials, Trump has never actually contested most of the legal charges against him.

    The entire contents of the Mueller Report remains uncontested and well documented fact.

    Trump may have repeatedly bellowed that his Russia collusion was a “hoax”. But not one fact, document or testimony in it was ever challenged, disputed or discredited by Trump or his allies.

    He is dead t rights guilty in the Georgia election case, as well as the documents case (a oth by his own admission). All his lawyers can. Or ever have done is file nuisance motions in attempts to delay. He has yet to offer any real defense.

    ‘Nor did his lawyers attempt to refute the charges in his fraud conviction.

    so you have a very tall mountain to climb if you’re going to continue to claim that Trump is an innocent victim.
     
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    In fact the entire mueller report doesn't actually accuse him or anyone else of much more than a refusal to confess to things they didn't provably do.

    The Georgia case much like the New York is at best legal sophistry and at worst and complete fraud. And yes the lawyers did attempt to contest those fraud charges in New York that the judge not only would not address there statements but never even bothered to counter their claims
     
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    So are you voting Trump then?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    we aren't supporting Biden--up until a few days ago, you were
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    some one should tell the one in the blue to shave those nasty leg hairs or get some opaque hose
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Being a character does not mean you have any she's dumber than Joe and sleeping one's way to the top may say a lot of things about you but integrity isn't one of them. If she had any real integrity she's run on the stuff she actually believes in not try to reimage herself to confuse the electorate
     
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    Dude they are being laughed at. Being called weird by a party that approves of Transgender surgeries for grade schoolers is like being called crazy by the guy in the strait jacket.
     
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    Who is "they". The argument here is that saying "weird" is the newest low, meaning it's the worst insult ever heard. That's why I said it takes buttercuppery to a whole new level.

    Suck it up buttercup!!!

    I don't give a rats ass what people think about democrats. I'll be the last person to complain about someone calling them weird.
     
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    what exactly are her qualifications? right now, her toadies are claiming she didn't fail at being VP because she had no real duties to fail. I love your hatred of the EC-it seems anytime the constitution doesn't allow mob rule, Democrats complain. Let's go back to what existed years ago-only property owners could vote. guess what-well Hillary would have only won TWO STATES if that was the rule.

    but what I really want to know is what has Harris done that shows she is qualified to be president
     
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    I don't think this gaslighting campaign by the Dems and the Lying Fake News Media is going to work very well

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    I think we're all sick and tired of it but, to put it to bed, Trump has to be defeated in November.

    To turn his phrase against him, vote him down in November and you won't have to do it again. If he loses this time hopefully the GOP will turn their backs on him and the silliness he's brought to politics.

    I think the Democrats have got the tenor of this campaign down pat. You can't fight a clown show with dry policy pronouncements, the clown show will always get more Lookie Lou's.

    I'd love to see a GOP devoid of his pernicious influence and a return to a policy-based competition of ideas on both sides but if "weird" is what it takes, I'd say go for it. Use any ammunition in the arsenal to get us through this nightmarish period. And then, get back to governance.
     
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    Them are the people running the Democratic party or have you to not been paying attention for the last five years. It is they and their media mouth pieces that are calling Vance weird, mostly because they're pretty sure they either can't make the usual fascist or racist BS stick or that no one buys that crap. I don't think it's a new low just a different card spun out of the same low life deck they always use in preference to actually telling people what there plans really are.
     
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    Repeating the lies with more words do not make them true.

    The Mueller Report documented the efforts of the Trump campaign to accept and coordinate aid from the former KGB to influence an American Presidential campaign. It also catalogs Trump’s blatant obstruction of Justice.

    I have asked Trump cultists the same question repeatedly. How do you explain why an American political campaign would invite agents of the intelligence service of a rival power to a meeting in their campaign headquarters in the middle of a U.S. Presidential election campaign.

    ‘Had that meeting become public knowledge prior to the election, Trump would have been finished.

    In eight years, not one single Trumpster has ever tried to answer that question. They always run away.

    In the New York case, Trump’s defense lasted less than one day.

    ‘The other two cases are open and shut. Trump’s own public statements serve as confessions.
     
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    The racist “stuff” stuck in 2015, Trump launched his campaign with blatant racism and has never stopped.

    It’s the core value of Trumpism.

    The facism is also reflected by Trump’s own behavior and public comments, as well as his henchmen’s work on Project 2025.

    Trump has spent nine years defining himself.

    He owns facist, racist, xenophobic, ignorant, incompetent, vulgar and disloyal.

    “weird” is just a polite way of saying it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It has everything to do with it sir, and we both know it. Like most humans, especially politicians, Trump has told his share of lies, no doubt. That the election of 2020 was stolen is not one of the lies. Mountains of evidence show it was stolen, and I didn't even vote for the guy.
     
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    How else would you describe the Trump campaign over the last few months? He's against Crypto, TikTok, Anheuser Busch and electric cars. Until he has a meeting with a billionaire who has an interest in those things - and then he can't say enough good things! And then there's the 'we don't need your votes - we have enough already' comments. To me, and many others, that's just 'weird'.
     
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    Produce these “mountains of evidence”
     
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    Sorry no Trump is not the instigator Trump Was still in school when Democrats started this crap.
     
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    Sorry no the Mueller Case said in Fact they could find no evidence any knowing attempt to coordinate with Russia. In the paragraph Proceeding the laughable obstruction complaint is the interesting statement ignored by every leftist on earth. ,,,while it is difficult to make a case for obstruction when you have literally been given total cooperation...

    Every body knows about the Trump tower meeting where in some lady long sense disappeared from site who talked to fusion GPS before and after the meeting was supposed to bring dirt on Hillary but instead brought only a diatribe about how American Sanctions were negatively impacting her supposed adoption business.It is assumed by the Dems that she was a Russian agent but there is zero evidence as to who and what she was and who she represented. My money is on the first of several entrapment attempts finally culminating in J6
     
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    That highly misleading.

    The Report did not find evidence of direct knowledge or collusion.

    Solely because the collusion was conducted through a series of cut outs, including Roger Stone, Julian Assange (who coordinated the Russian supplied Wikileaks emails). Manafort, of course, fed insider campaign polling data directly to the FSB so they could refine their fake news and social media campaigns.

    Nobody knew about the Trump Tower meeting in 2016,

    To this day, the only narrative on what was said in that meeting came from Don Jr, hardly a credible source.
     
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    Wow, for someone who "didn't vote for the guy", you sure sound like you've been mainlining that Kool-Aid.
     
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    Quite Right!

    They claim JD is weird and that this is normal.
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    Of which there is zero evidence. And there were three other people in the meeting none have contradicted Don Jr. And given Stones only comment was that he thought the next wiki release would be around election time. That has nothing to do with collusion there isn't a politically aware human being on the planet who would have thought other wise. And Assange has said repeatedly that he did not get the information from Russia. So the above post based entirely on zero evidence is indeed highly misleading.
     
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    Actually, Stone and Assange’s roles are well documented in the report. Never refuted, discredited or contested.

    Stone went to jail for refusing to testify over it.

    And the Russians showed up at the Ecuadorian Embassy to remove their files and encryption software from Assange’s computers.

    As for the Trump Tower meeting, none of Trump’s lackey testified about that meeting.
    Not that it matters.

    You are tossing out cofeve to avoid the question I asked you.

    Try again.

    Why would officials od ANY U.S Presidential campaign invite agents of a rival nation’s intelligence service into a meeting in campaign headquarters in the middle of a campaign?????

    Evidently, you are comfortable with spies from rival powers sharing “dirt” in domestic campaigns, to try and influence American politics.

    This is disloyal to say the least. Had it become known any time during the 2016 campaign, Trump would have been finished.

    Trump did collude with the Russians, and took zputin;s lead, right up to today.

    Manafort’s role with Deripashka is also well documented, and never refuted.

    As for this: “there isn't a politically aware human being on the planet who would have thought other wise. ”

    There isn’t an intelligence agency on the planet that is not fully aware of the Russian role in Trump’s campaign.

     
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    LOL, in these last 4 years I've come to fully understand the wisdom and truth of the old saying "You can lead a man to knowledge, but you cannot make him think".

    There is none with a more closed mind than the person who rejects 2000 Mules.
     

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