“White Privilege” and “Toxic Masculinity”

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    “White Privilege” and “Toxic Masculinity”

    By Paul Mirengoff
    May 3, 2018

    Andreas Papandreou became Greece’s first Socialist prime minister in 1981, running against “the privileged.” It was a political master stroke because, as one Greek historian put it, no self-respecting Greek considers himself privileged.
    Unlike Papandreou, when the modern American left rails against privilege, it leaves no ambiguity about who it thinks are its recipients. The left is talking explicitly about whites — as in “white privilege.” Thus, it is attacking the current racial majority in America and the racial plurality for as far as the eye can see.
    Do American whites view themselves as privileged? It can be argued that, by definition, self-respecting ones don’t.
    But the notion of white privilege is being drilled into white students at America’s colleges and universities, and probably at many high schools. Nor is the notion impossible to sell in the campus setting. One can rationally consider it a privilege to be pampered at elite colleges, although the privilege isn’t a uniquely white one. Black students enjoy it and in many cases receive it with inferior credentials to their white counterparts.
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    Speaking of toxic, treating traditional masculinity as a mental health problem seems like as politically toxic an idea as labeling American whites “privileged.” Once this attitude seeps into our politics, as may be happening already, e.g., on the fringes of the “MeToo” movement, Democrats will be on their way to alienating not just white males and females, but men generally.

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    It is very interesting to me. While the young generation talks about gender equality, the story becomes quite different when they are married. As far as I can tell, most young women want their husbands to make more money than they do. They want their husbands to be the breadwinner. Thus lies the dilemma of their generation.
    Betting a fair number also want the husband to do the yardwork, take a hand in the housework, and be an equal parent in raising the children even if the children mostly seem to look at mom.
    That's all fine and dandy if the couple work the deal out as mutually supporting, mutually respectful, and sharing the fun as well as the work.
    All these professional 'victims' of whatever their degraded minds can imagine will in the end find out what being a 'victim' really means suffering in the Gulags and re-education camps they created for their masters on the people.
     
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    Mostly the divvy goes like that, as men REFUSE to do housework, or cook etc. So, by default, to get men to pull their weight, they are given the GLORY chores, which they can flex their foreskins about, and say, what a great provider I am.

    Men are lazy and entitled by their growing up expectations, and they get pissy, if they are leaned on. Particularly Caucasian men.
     
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    Race/sex bait much?^^
     
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    The husbands role is to make the money, head the household and oversee the big things the wife should manage the home and that includes the man paying for any appliances, furniture, food they eat, educational needs and children's needs under the fathers overall supervision, consulting on matters of children's discipline and training and decides all other matters. The children should obey the parents, be trained to be good children and submit to both parents barring gross abuse then its up to the proper authorities not them. There you do that and your going to be fine and have a nice happy home.
     
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    Why is it, the political establishment is BAD EVIL, but the patriarchy is GOOD? Methinks its cuz YOU say so.
     
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    What's toxic is this constant slandering and attacking of arbitrarily defined groups of people, and everyone engages in it. It makes up the majority of what passes for political discussion these days, in fact. It's childish and detrimental to society.
     
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    From a marriage perspective if you’re not the breadwinner you better be bringing something else to the relationship. A wife who doesn’t command much of a salary, yet can’t cook, doesn’t want to clean or do chores, isn’t of much value in my book. Hope she’s really good looking and/or enjoys taking care of the kids. The husband better be making a good living to make up for her shortcomings.

    Same for the man. If the wife is the breadwinner he better have other skills to make up for it. Now if you’re so rich you don’t need any of these other skills, because you can just pay others, that’s great. Don’t hear much about those marriages lasting though. **** just falls apart eventually and I know plenty in these relationships. Wealthy, pay others to do everything including taking care of the kids, etc. Not as happy as their situation appears.

    There has to be roles of some sort. Somebody has to do something. If the man can’t make money he better be able to cook and clean. Same for the woman.

    But right now there is a concerted effort to demonize white males and it’s getting dangerous. We’ll have a generation of kitties and guess who isn’t attracted to pusses...yes females. Well be the Japanese who have some severely ****ed up social/dating problems right now.
     
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    Could because patriarchal and matriarchal societies have existed since time immemorial. Just take a look at the 1,300 year old Muslim Society which still holds women as slaves and chattels. Only in the Utopian ideology of Marxist Socialism is it considered different until it's applied to real life and then it falls apart. A marriage is not just a 50/50 proposition.
     
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    You guys are relics.
     
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    Surely you are almost right. After being married for 59 years I would tend to have more credence than a millennial that continues to live in the basement of his/her parents home.
     
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    Women want all the perks of being a man and a woman and a lot of men aren't giving in to marriage and kids these days because of it. Women and men are equal but they are not the same no matter what liberals try to say. Furthermore, races of people are very different in good and bad ways among all races and the more people try to deny it, the worse off we are. We should celebrate our differences, not fight over them.
     
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    I agree with all except the part about men being 'head of the household'. Parents should share leadership. Sometimes one takes charge, sometimes the other does. Neither ought to bring any expectation of 'fixed superiority' into a marriage. That shiite belongs in the dark ages.
     
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    What?

    Men who are the breadwinners work their arses off (often in jobs they hate), have very little free time, very little time with their kids, and are still expected to uncomplainingly do all the heavy work around the house AND cook/clean/raise the kids. It's a freaking joke how bad some such men have it.

    If both parents work, then all domestic stuff should be shared equally, obviously. But if the wife is at home and the kids are at school, she should be doing all the yard work, all the cooking, all the shopping, all the cleaning, most of the kid stuff, and making sure her long-suffering man has some down time on weekends etc.
     
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    Are you married? Any kids? Mortgage?
     
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    Because the patriarchy brought about all the good things we enjoy today. The political establishment wants to tear it all down.
     
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    Yes, I enjoyed that bit too. I'd like to check back in with Guyz when he's been married for 20 or so years, has a few kids, has a house and yard to maintain, a mortgage to pay, and a wife who doesn't care for work.
     
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    Really. Can you cite specifically makes me a relic? I’m thinking you skimmed or didn’t even read it. I’m guessing you’re the person I specifically referred to. A person who brings nothing to the relationship. Are you saying I’m a relic because I expect both people to provide some sort of value and not just be a money sponge?

    I’m very curious as to how strong your relationship is if you bring nothing to the table. You understand that’s all I said. Both people need to bring something. That’s a bad thing in your world? Really. Wow. I think you’re the relic because you probably aren’t passing your genes on with an attitude like that. Or you’ve never been in a stable relationship because you’re the useless sponge I was referring to. Or if you’re too young to understand these life lessons I forgive your ignorance. You’ll learn eventually or just be single your whole life. /Golf clap.
     
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    You mean like Sickle Cell....
     
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    I know a few single female 40 somethings who are still waiting for that perfect guy. The thing is they don’t want to sacrifice or compromise. I find that astounding. Following their FB likes and reading some of the feminist swill articles makes me chuckle. The advice being given basically insured that these 40somethings better accept being single forever.

    I listen to some of the conversations, claiming they don’t want to deal with any baggage? Really you want to find a perfect single guy in his 40s with no baggage. You’re either divorced or a widow or never been married and all of them bring different issues. AND YOU HAVE BAGGAGE. It’s why you’re single. I’d love to shake some sense into them but obviously they want all the benefits of being in a relationship without having to do anything. Take take take and no give. What a wonderful combo in a mate:)
     
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    Critical Theory cultists aren't satisfied with merely observing, explaining and navigating societal interactions, they're acutely interested in actively altering how we humans interact in order to suit their own (state collectivist) political agendas.

    Class Warfare, Cultural Marxism/PC (Groupthink), Victim-Oppressor politics, Virtue Signaling, Social Justice Warriorism are all part of it, and are specifically designed to manipulate (deceive, shame, bully) you into getting on board with their program.

    America's education systems are teeming with them, and your children are their lab rats.
     
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    Privilege is just the inverse of discrimination. If you aren't privileged on a particular axis, you're discriminated against, and if you're not discriminated against on that axis, you're privileged on it. It's a bit of a loaded term, but it's not an insulting thing to be privileged, considering the goal is for everyone to be privileged.

    I have the privilege of not having to watch my drink so closely because nobody wants to date rape me. I have the privilege of being able to call the police without worrying they'll assume I'm a criminal over my skin color. Those aren't things to be ashamed of, those are things everyone deserves.
     
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    All of this and more. Talking about the male version over on the "Incels" thread.

    I don't think they're looking for 'perfection', however. I think they're looking for something they're not entitled to. To explain what I mean by entitled, I'll use an example from my own extended circle. A particular 50 year old woman who has never married, but is desperate to be married, and was (too late for that now) desperate for kids. Because she has always mixed with what I'll call 'upmarket' folk, and her girlfriends are married to well heeled, very good looking, fit, middle aged men, she has assumed that that's the kind of man she should be holding out for. The problem is that these girlfriends are .. as middle aged women go .. in a looks class far above her own. Think Angelina Jolie compared to Rosie O'Donnell. It's never occurred to her to adjust her standards to where they should be. So she stays single, and complains bitterly.
     
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    Just more Marxist strategies created by our presumably Christian friends at the Frankfurt school.
     
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    Really? I can cook better than then the wife and often do. Why do you think men make the best chef's?
     
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    Because we give top chefs accolades, so it becomes like the Olympics. Women, not so much, till recently. And I am a toppish chef. And could likely go up against Bobby Flay.
     

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