10 Lessons the US should learn from Iraq defeat

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Abu Sina, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. The Doctor

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    Oh I understand it, he doesn't know the difference between race and religion and seeks to conflate the two by making up his own definitions as he goes along, despising the despotic, violent, misogynistic, homophobic, and decidedly anti-Liberal ideology of Islam has (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with racism.
     
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    Hating the violent, totalitarian, misogynistic, homophobic, and bigoted ideology of Islam has absolutely no moral equivalency with racism; whatsoever, and only a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot or madrassas educated pedophile worshiper would disagree.
     
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    The Iraqi people, you know the ones for the first time have control over their oil rather than the Tikriti Baathist elite.

    You're thinking of the insurgency which was and is responsible for the vast majority of civilian deaths in Iraq.
     
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    Yes we know you would rather have Saddam still in power rather than the democratically elected Constitutional republic where his once brutal totalitarian regime once stood. Truly disgusting.
     
  5. I_Gaze_At_The_Blue

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    And nothing to do with your plain old-fashioned hatred then PeaceBeautyLove, Michael Collins, RoryMac, Macca, gougeway, Rangertom, PatrickPearse, mendoza, Bonardi, TheGreatGatsby, Controller, whistleblower, chimera, mollywhacker, Hendrix, Isaacnewton, Paolo Di Canio ...
     
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    This has nothing to do with the fact that you don't know the difference between race and religion, you just make up definitions as you see fit, the disdain I feel towards a violent, homophobic, misogynistic, and totalitarian ideology has absolutely (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with race.
     
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    A) Reported.

    B) I am neither brainwashed nor uneducated, everything I have stated regarding the cult of the pedophile worshiper Mohammad (may (*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him) is verifiable fact.
     
  8. I_Gaze_At_The_Blue

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    Irony ... sometimes it just is !!!

    How many times have you been banned now PeaceBeautyLove, Michael Collins, RoryMac, Macca, gougeway, Rangertom, PatrickPearse, mendoza, Bonardi, TheGreatGatsby, Controller, whistleblower, chimera, mollywhacker, Hendrix, Isaacnewton, Paolo Di Canio ...
     
  9. The Doctor

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    Well you are just completely and utterly wrong actually, the weapons received by Saddam from the U.S. accounted for less than .5% of his total foreign purchased armament, you are thinking of the Soviet Union which is why Saddam's Army had T-62 tanks and not M1-A1 Abrams, that's why his infantry fought with AK-47's and Soviet RPG's and not M-16's and Stingers, that's why his airforce flew MIG's and not F-16's, etc etc. The majority of equipment that he got from the U.S. came in the form of dual use items; such as, helicopters retrofitted after sale for military use. But nice fail all the same.
     
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    It is a evil, certainly, just as Nazism, and Communism, it is a violent and oppressive ideology founded by a pedophile and genocidal madman which has no place in liberal society save for a study in violent and oppressive political systems IE what not to do.

    A) Reported again.

    B) Your statistics are laughable, we have a highly educated populace with a per capita income ranking amongst the highest in the world.
     
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    A) Reported yet again, for this post, and the following PM:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=534431

    B) Nothing you just said has anything to do with the fact that you are completely wrong regarding arm sales and military assistance to Iraq.
     
  12. I_Gaze_At_The_Blue

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    You are losing it PBL and acting like a tantrumy child ... you care very much about venting your spleen, and no doubt will be back as soon as you can under a new name to regurgitate the same tired old rants ... won't you ???
     
  13. The Doctor

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    What I was saying is exactly what I said which is that you have no idea what you are talking about regarding military assistance to Baathist Iraq, you were just pulling fake statistics out of thin air and you just got caught in your lie by some one who you claim is uneducated but is obviously far more educated than yourself.
     
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    Rubbish-and you know it. Every one of your posts resonates with lies, irrational hatred, bigotry and racist rhetoric. Fortunately they're all pretty much of the same, predictable, 'paedophile worshipping swine' variety of infantile tripe, so I can avoid them knowing I haven't missed anything of any value whatsoever.
     
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    Will you get to 100 posts you think PBL ???
     
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    So the US gave no military assistance to the evil Muslim, Saddam, during the Iran-Iraq war? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran–Iraq_war
     
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    Which lie exactly?

    It's completely rational to hate violent and oppressive ideologies steeped in misogyny, anti-liberalism, homophobia, aggressive war, and imperialism.
    Which race exactly?

    Once again still has nothing to do with the fact that the cult of the pedophile "prophet" is not a race and my disdain for that man and his virulent ideology is in no way whatsoever equatable to racism.
     
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    Appx. .5% of his total foreign bought arms came from the U.S. consisting of dual use items retrofitted for military use after delivery. Once again this is why Saddam's army had T-62 Tanks, AK-47s, and MIGs, not M1s, M16s, or F16s. :roll:
     
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    As opposed to NONE that they were getting under Saddam. Yes, curse those Americans! lol


    The evil invaders who got rid of the dictator and put the representatives of the Iraqi people into power, allowing them to make their own laws for the first time in forever. Yes, those American invaders are awful.

    Why are we not still bombing them if killing civilians was our goal?

    Why not? I thought you said the fewer Iraqis, the better for us (Post #197). So isnt "zero" then the best number?

    You appear to be changing your story.

    Hitler lacked the means of wiping them out. But that was obviously his goal.

    By contrast, it is well within our means to wipe out the Iraqis. You are claiming that this is our goal. So explain why we are not doing it.

    ...and apparently yours as well. At least until your next post when your story morphs again.

    Explain why we would wipe out some villages but not others if our goal is to wipe out all Iraqis.

    Because a dictator named Saddam was in control of them. We could not determine what the Iraqi People wanted because he was preventing them from speaking. That is not obvious to you?

    Now that he is gone, the Iraqis can speak for themselves via their own elected representatives. Is that not a better situation than what they had before?

    If we had no problem with Saddam why did we remove his government? If we had no problem with Saddam, why did we not leave him in power?
     
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    You appear to be unaware of what the word "dictatorship" actually means. The fact that you do not personally like a certain government does not necessarily mean that it is a dictatorship.

    I wont be able to answer that question until I know what it is like to be a controlled little peasant.
     
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    I would say we won militarily and lost politically. The problem stems from politicians running the war. The federal government doesn't have the will to do what it takes to win. Bring the troops home - all of them - everywhere. Right now.
     
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    Once again .5% of his total foreign arms purchases consisting of dual use items retrofitted after the sale is not "heavy backing".
     
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    not as bad as vietnam was at least...

    Weird thing is, Vietnam is in a better position now than Iraq is and still will be in 30 years.
     
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    Better position for what? Continued dire poverty and oppression of their people?
     
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    The Vietnamese have a superior culture to the Arabs. Therein lies the difference.
     

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