18 seconds show those first into Capitol were not Trump supporters

I know you desperately want to deny it, but there are a multitude of extremely violent Right wing militias and lone actors. To reveal the name of the officer is to invite those elements to action. After all, the Trump seems to have had no problem luring thousands to participate in its last desperate attempt to hang onto power it is not entitled to.

 

by not giving the ok to go in.... also by not sending out a tweet or a public announcement earlier telling his supporters to stop

he invited them there

 

They were all told to get back from what I remember. She didn't do that and she was shot. Isn't that the equivalent of resisting arrest - which has become the fall back defence position for police on this board.

 

"Um . . . cuz . . cuz somufem waz wurrin black" Worst argument of the year.

 

Why don't we know? What's the name of the officer who shot and killed her. This is a homicide why is the information being withheld?

 

Quote him giving the OK to illegally enter the Capital. And it was not his job to stop the protestors, you don't like the timeframe of his public statements OH WELL we don't need a commission about it you KNOW what happened.

 

And I know you desperately want to divert but the fact is a law enforcement officer shot and killed someone and when that the happens the public has a right to know just as with any other police shooting. If I search will I find you expressing the same concern in all the other police shootings that have been discussed here?

 

I would love to see who has been arrested for insurrection and/or sedition since that is what is claimed to have occurred Don't you want any insurrections charge with that and prosecuted for it. And your desperate attempts to divert again.

 

Agreed!

Breaking and entering is a crime and she was committing that crime when she was shot.

Strange how the extreme right CONDEMNS George Floyd for just wanting to be able to breathe while becoming OUTRAGED that a WHITE woman was shot while COMMITTING a crime.

 

Why can't the right wing admit it was Trump supporters causing the violence?

 

Exactly, and he was handcuffed at the time

 

So all the protestors were fair game to be shot? If a police officer comes up to a house and someone is just breaking in they can be shot? The police in Portland can just shoot any of those people comitting crimes now? How do you know she was the one breaking the window? Floyd was not shot nor intentionally killed so stop with non-sequitur specious comparison.

 

The investigation is ongoing. They are investigating conspiracy by groups such as Proud Boys. III Percenters and Oath Keepers. The Senate has not conducted any investigation because Moscow Mitch will not allow it. He cracks the whip, the other Goppers follow like whipped curs. Come back when the investigation is over and the trials are starting. I believe you will see many prosecuting for insurrection (I'm not sure that is an actual crime that can be prosecuted or if the charge would be conspiracy to engage). A 1/6 commission would not be partisan; the proposal was for an equal number of dems and reps on the panel. I think if we could have a dozen Senate inquiries on Benghazi we can have one on the biggest domestic terrorist attack since OK City (I'm talking about a concerted effort by a group to terrorize, not lone haters like the Pulse night club murderer, of course).

I'm glad to see you're not claiming lefties dressed up like Trumpies to make Trump "look bad". There may be hope for you yet.

 

She and the others were not following police orders to desist. Or is just unarmed black guys that are OK to shoot if they don't do everything a police tell them to? I don't believe she was singled out; the cop shot into the crowd out of desperation and she was unluckily in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's sad but she brought herself to that time, place and circumstance. If she didn't gullibly believe the lies she was fed, she'd still be alive today.

 

Calling a 3-hour riot in which nobody was killed except protesters an "armed insurrection" will, by design, massively empower the US security state in ways you may think or hope will only target your enemies but will end up, as it always does, crushing the liberties of everyone. ~ Glenn Greenwald

 

So they can be shot?

And that's it? Riot control cops can now just fire their firearms into the crowd indiscriminately?

It was a homicide, where is the investigation, who was the officer who fired, why did he use lethal force, was he suspended during the investigation and on and on and on and on...........

 

And we have no charges of conspiracy, we have no charges of insurrection, we have no charges of sedition. The Senate had their investigation as they saw fit McConnell could not and did not stop it. And Behgahazi and this have NOTHING to do with each and are ENTIRELY different matters go learn the difference. And I hardly need nor require your "hope" deal with yourself.

 

Amazing. Now I understand this post better.

 

How about a more honest comparison. Let's say you and your family live in a large house and you have hired a team of security guards. One day a violent mob shows up at your house chanting for your death. They attack your security guards, hospitalizing some of them. They break down your fence. They break down your front door. You and your family have found one final refuge and the security officers have barricaded the door against the mob. But they manage to tear an opening and one of them jumps through. Is it okay for one of your security officers to now use lethal force? I say yes. And, frankly, anyone short of a pacifist Quaker who says no is probably lying.

 

Same reason they always turn a blind eye to examples of RW terrorism and play make-believe it doesn't exist. They think their feelings matter more than facts.

 

A couple of seconds on Google would have told you that, yes, the investigation has occurred, has concluded, and no charges were recommended.

 

What part of "ongoing investigation" don't you understand? Learn patience, Grasshopper. Oh, and analogies fly right over your head, I guess.

 

And after months and months of investigation we have no charges of insurrection, no charges of sedition, no charges of conspiracy and even after the Senate investigation found little other than some protestors who got out of hand. The cases are being settled as I type. If there was some big conspiracy, with the over 400 arrest that have been made how come they haven't apparently found it?