51 Bozos In Our Intelligence Officials Protected Hunter

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  1. popscott

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    @Nwolfe35
    "Saying the laptop is "authentic" is far different than saying the data on the laptop is authentic."
    Did you actually just say that?

    The laptop had everything to do with the election... WaPo, NYT, and CBS all had their experts look at it and declared the laptop was authentic...

    Copy of what's believed to be Hunter Biden's laptop data turned over by repair shop to FBI showed no tampering, analysis says

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-data-analysis/

    The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.

    https://archive.ph/IdTMj

    Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies, say two security experts who examined the data at the request of The Washington Post.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/


    And we have Shapley's testimony

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    John Ratcliffe, Director of National Intelligence: "Biden's laptop is not Russian disinformation."

     
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    Why is this so hard? If there was nothing illegal on it for them to act upon and arrest him there is nothing for them to do if he says it's not his. As far as I've seen, there has been embarrassing elements but nothing illegal that they could act upon.
     
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    So since Biden hasn't been charged that means he didn't break the law.

    Thank you for finally admitting to that.
     
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    You mean when the laptop 'scandal' was released just before the election? Which side did that?
     
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    The contents of the laptop suggest illegal drug use when he purchased a firearm. I would be extremely disappointed if it gets preferential treatment.

    Having said that, given the circumstances of the case, is lack of a criminal history etc, even if he has found guilty of using drugs at the time of the gun purchase, I would suggest fines and probation. I think that would be appropriate for most citizens in his situation.
     
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    I would like to hear more about why he wasn't charged though.
     
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    In the 2019 fiscal year, when Hunter Biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on Form 4473 — and filed just 298 cases. The numbers were roughly similar for fiscal 2020. At issue is when Biden answered “no” on the question that asks about unlawful drug use and addiction when purchasing a gun. Biden had been discharged five years earlier from the Navy Reserve for drug use and based on his 2021 memoir, he was actively using crack cocaine in the year he bought the gun. The data do not show how many people might have been prosecuted for falsely answering the question about active drug use. A 1990 Justice Department study noted how difficult it was to bring cases against people who falsely answer questions on the form, especially because there is no paper trail for drug abusers like there is for felons.

    https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/few-prosecutions-for-lying-on-atf-gun-purchase-form

    I guess they would need to prove that he was using drugs at the time of purchase. Does within the same year count? These drugs leave your system within a few days to a few weeks. How do you prove such a thing? I think it's difficult.
     
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    Well it probably did look like misinformation at the time. Trump's side made a big mistake by having giuliani involved and websites like theGatewaypundit. It looked filthy from the start.

    They should have just released it to the FBI and not tried to politicize it.
     
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    How nice -- The New York Post printed the mug shots of the 51 bozos who covered for Hunter. Now the media needs to go after them and get their side of the story. Thanks to popscott for posting on PF.
     
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    The special counsel said he intentionally broke the law and we know he did because he admitted it to the special counsel. Just because you made a foolish statement about Trump's kids doesn't mean it makes sense to make a foolish statement about Biden.

    What I said was, "If there was EVIDENCE of them breaking the law they would have been charged." You haven't pointed to any evidence. Whining about them not being charged in absence of evidence of criminality is a foolish argument to make.

    My post wasn't difficult to comprehend. No reason to butcher the meaning of it to defend the Dementia Deity with fallacious arguments.
     
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    So much proof of LAWFARE I'm practically drowning in it! Notice how Joe with 100% confidence said he wouldn't pardon him? Right, because we all know its gonna be a slap on the wrist. I hope he has full acquittal so even MORE people get angry about lawfare and turn to TRUMP
     
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    Are you not familiar with the concept of an October surprise? It happens all the time, which is why the term even exists. That is precisely what the Billy Bush tapes were. There is nothing wrong with waiting for the best time to reveal a scandal. Doing so is politics as usual.
     
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    Yeah but there are scandals and then there is made up ****. A man (and I use the term loosely) bragging about sexual assault is very different from trying to “get” someone through doxing their only surviving son
     
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    Not factually accurate.

    It is for all these reasons that we write to say that the arrival on the US political scene of emails
    purportedly belonging to Vice President Biden’s son Hunter, much of it related to his time
    serving on the Board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, has all the classic earmarks of a
    Russian information operation.

    We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by
    President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have
    evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the
    Russian government played a significant role in this case.

    If we are right, this is Russia trying to influence how Americans vote in this election, and we
    believe strongly that Americans need to be aware of this.

    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000
     
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    They lied to rig the election for Bribed Joe and it worked.

    And they're still at it.

    Why would they stop? It's working and they are paying no price.

    ELECTION INTERFERENCE: FOIA: FBI Official Colluded With Democrats.

    '"We would love to meet in person next time you have the chance. Please let us know when you’re available for coffee or just to swing by the office. And don’t hesitate to reach out on any other matters!" a senior House Democrat staffer wrote to an FBI official whose name is redacted from the emails'

    Some Dems are great pals with the Dirtbags of the FBI.

    '“These troubling records show how the FBI colluded with Democrats hostile to FBI whistleblowers who were set to testify to Congress,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton in a statement.'
     
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    No... it means the corrupt DOJ, who were involved are not about to investigate the corrupt DOJ who were involved... the Biden's aside.... he would cause questions they don't want to answer...

    Tell us @Nwolfe35.... did the FACT the Secret Service was in "coverup mode" during the gun issue, was it brought up in the trial? They literally was not protecting the Biden's at the time.... Pretty bad when the store owner smelled a rat and did what he did...
     
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    You keep ignoring the fact that they coordinated with the Biden campaign and never disclosed that to the public. The entire process was quarterbacked by Antony Blinken with the help of Andrew Bates and Steve Ricchetti. They helped draft the letter and position its public release. Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell also admitted under oath that a primary reason to release the letter was to intentionally assist Biden in the upcoming debate by giving him a talking point to claim the laptop was Russian Disinfo. And then after the debate they reached out and thanked them for helping Biden in the debate. It was all a campaign disinformation, similar to the Hillary Clinton's Russian Dossier. And they never told the public about their coordination with the Biden campaign or their intent to assist him in his debate against Trump.
     
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    Yep.... a deflection for sure.... the very same reason Joe Biden was setup to give a presser the very first night the jury went in for deliberation in the Bragg's case.. they didn't decide then though..... only a guilty verdict would prompt that presser, like "we know ahead of time" type of verdict presser...
     
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    Yep…

    it was (now) U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, then senior advisor to the Biden campaign, was the impetus of the public statement signed in October 2020 that falsely implied the New York Post’s reporting about Hunter Biden was the product of Russian disinformation. Seems there should be an investigation of this collusion that went on.

    https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/e...public-statement-on-hunter-biden-emails_0.pdf
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    Morell is on the record denying the allegations made in the congressional POT's report.
     
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    This is just more unsubstantiated nonsense and the spreading of more disinformation.

    The transcript was conducted under oath. Additionally, the letter needed to go through CIA clearances before its release. Morell helped fast-track the approval through the Prepublication Classification Review Board which added a REQUIRED disclaimer when clearing the document for release. They did not include the REQUIRED disclaimer when releasing the document publicly because the disclaimer was intended to inform the public that it was not the opinion of the CIA.

    Additionally, Morell's emails were received where he reached out to people like Brennan, Panetta, etc and said "we believe the Russians were involved in some way" when in reality this entire letter was the brainchild of the Biden campaign and the CIA expressly told Morell it was not their opinion. He was rushing to get the letter out and leaked it to the press because they needed it out as quickly as possible for the upcoming debate. And we know this because we have another one of his emails where he said explicitly the hurry was to give Biden a "talking point" in the debate.

    Stop spreading disinformation. It's not a good look.
     
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    Irony: "...made up ****" vs "bragging about sexual assault"
     
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    Made up? What was made up? Are you trying to claim that the laptop does not contain loads of now verified information that could be damaging to Biden? It included all kinds of implied shady business dealings. Cmon.

    At any rate, I didnt get into this conversation to get all that in depth in bickering about that. I had responded to someone acting as if releasing it right before the election is somehow unethical or even unique. In reality, that is business as usual from both sides. "October surprises" happen more frequently than they do not in Presidential elections.
     
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    Not so. And for very obvious reasons.

    According to the Trump narrative, a man who may, or may not have been Hunter Biden dropped off a laptop at a repair shop run by a guy who was legally blind.

    That individual copied the content and shared them. Both actions are illegal

    Then,he didn’t call the police, or the FBI. He called Rudy Guliani.

    An obvious question is what is the connection between Guliani and the owner of a storefront computer repair shop????

    There is little doubt that this is, and always was a Russian disinformation campaign.

    But you don’t have to take my word for it.

    Lev Parnas was part of the scheme (including Trump’s attempt to blackmail Zelinsky) from the very start.

    This is what he told the Comer clown show.

    https://www.congress.gov/118/meetin...ses/HHRG-118-GO00-Wstate-ParnasL-20240320.pdf
     

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