7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. politicalcenter

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    So all you have is opinion?
     
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    Or you don't know what democracy is, or in your country the democracy is defined in a such way that the government is required to open investigation any time some people want it. If this is your definition of the democracy, so for sure Gaza and Russia are democratic places, because the longevity of people demanding government investigation in Russia or Gaza is amazing short and nobody could check if such investigations started.

    IMHO Netanyahu will be very happy to fulfill this demand. Netanyahu is blaming Israeli army for Oct 7 failure, so showing the army failure will make him and his political party less guilty, but in my view such investigation will not make Israeli democracy stronger or weaker, I'll bet in your eyes too.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I'm interested in forensics.
     
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    Israel is not a democracy, hence why I called it faux democracy but that's not the topic. Please stop DERAILING
     
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    No, I asked you for what exactly you want a source and repeated even the facts that I claimed in my comment? You cannot even answer that, because you are incapable to have a consistent and logic conversation.

    If its about that, just one example.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

    Nevertheless, I told before, these are details. Fact is most of Palestinians follow a prophet who married a 6 year old and ****ed her when she was 9 years old. People who adore such satanic prophets in this are genuinely evil.

    No, you dont. You posted here at least one topic praising China as a coming super power, which faced the problem of Islam by banning the Quran, rightfully so imo and put the followers of these cult into concentration camps. It doesnt make sense if you wanna now claim Muslims are innocent. So either Muslims are innocent and China puts innocent people into concentration camps and bans a nice and peaceful religoous book, or China is right in doing that as its an approach to protect the innocent people from primitive war monger cults.

    The fact that you neither see nor feel the cognitive dissonance shows you neither even thought about what you wrote here nor do you feel what you write on an emotional level. You switch sides whenever you feel its convenient to troll and somehow want to oppose the Western part of the world, but when it comes to this topic you cannot be on two sides. Either you want a world in which all religions have their place or you defend a political ideology which calls to annihilate all the infidels.
     
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    Thank you.
    Right, now let's dissect your source, the BBC.......

    Ok, I've read it now and the source witness is anonymous..hmm

    Looks fishy to me, considering we know for a fact that Israeli spokespersons, IDF and govt are habitual liars.

    Why should we believe Israeli third hand accounts?
     
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    And one "witness" says he heard women being raped and decapitated. How would someone know what that sounds like? I certainly don't
     
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    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    1. There are countless reports and people who testify.
    2. The BBC has journalist standards to check testimonies.
    3. These accusations are plausible and consistent as the accused follow a cult, which is teaching sexual perversions. They are plausible if a lot of them confirm each other.

    So feel free to just counter accuse the hostages and witnesses of lying and defending a religion of sexual perversion.
     
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    How do you define "democracy"?
     
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    You have seen no evidence of sexual violence committed by Hamas on Oct 7???

    Wow, you didn't look very hard.
     
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    Exactly, the clueless visionaries of the world also thought Jews were not persecuted in Nazi Germany either. No Rwandans were massacred in Rwanda as well. I mean, if nobody will ever believe eye witness accounts, then what do we believe. I tend to think the clueless will believe whatever differing accounts are driven by other clueless idiots on the internet. Fortunately, there is plenty of video evidence of Hamas atrocities as well as pictures showing women with their boobs cut off as well as plenty of naked corpses.

    I find it hard to believe that there are clueless people who deny this happened. They are so deadset against one faction that they will deny anything their preferred faction actually does. That is complete and utter lunacy and those people may be lost to society as having a realistic viewpoint on life. This is coming from someone who believes the Palestinians deserve much better than what has happened to them, but what Hamas did on October 7th does not represent Palestine. It represents the most depraved of mankind on planet earth. Anyone defending those actions is not much better in my personal opinion.
     
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    The has been no victim to come forward as far as we know.

    This looks like more hasbara lies. Nothing to see here.
     
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    The dictionary definition of democracy reads: NOT ISRAEL.
     
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    Nope, zip, nada.

    Are you privvy to evidence that nobody here is?
     
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    Can we all stop the gossip and rumours please and bring hard facts or just post elsewhere, I'm not interested in fake news or anti semitic (hatred of Arabs) bigotry.
     
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    I don't know why but some folks hate Jews just because they are Jewish. I fail to understand. Of coarse I fail to understand hatred for anyone because of race creed or religion. But that's just me.
     
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    Memri is a organization dedicated to bringing the truth about Hamas to the western democracies including the United States. Unfortunately those in power in the US and the lazy media who are not interested in the truth but only print what supports their narrative that Israel is evil are not listening to what Hamas and the rest of the terrorism supporting nations in the ME are saying in their native languages. Memri publicizes this information but unfortunately very few are paying any attention to the truth - even the laughably so called International Court of Justice. The ideology of Hamas is abundantly clear based on their
    covenant/charter and their actions which follow that charter. The following is from the Wall Street Journal editorial page and is behind a paywall.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-t...:text=Memri’s translations have,what it wants.
     
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    #1. anti-Semitism means "hatred of Jews". Ask the Oxford English Dictionary.

    #2. Arabs are not the only Semites. Anyone who speaks a Semitic language is a Semite. Where do you get all this fake info from???
     
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    There is photographic evidence from dead Jews near Gaza that suggests sexual assault by hamas.
     
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    Democracy= rule by the people. All citizens of Israel have the right to vote. That makes them a democracy.
     
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    How exactly do these "pics" suggest rape?
     
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    Israel is far from democratic. It's a total sham of a govt and we (the scholars of worldly affairs) all know it
     
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    then post a quote from a source that proves it....oh that's right, you can't because it never happened. This is circular logic broski. Your link proves nothing about rape.
     
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    I posted an article detailing some of the evidence of sexual assault.
     

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