8yr old 'Grand Theft Auto IV' Player Shoots 90yr old Woman in the Head

I wouldn't call Tipper Gore a violent video game, but I would say she is butt ugly and married to a complete moron.

 

Thanks for posting that chart from the FBI. Of major note from that chart: In 1960 the violent crime rate was 1.8 per 1,000 people. By 1990 is was 4x as bad as 1960, and now it is still 2x as bad. And I suspect before the end of segregation, the crime rate was even lower than the 1.8 it was in 1960. FBI says it started increasing in about 1964 which is about when segregation faded into the history books :
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html

 

Pro tip: You can be for a small government *AND* want Uncle Sam to solve the problem of increased violence and these now almost commonplace mass shootings.

 

Any thoughts on how to fix all these broken parents in the USA? Because if we look at crime, drug use, and under-education; clearly there are a ton of parents in USA doing a horrible job. Now granted there will always be some strays you can't foresee; like Dahmer having normal parents and siblings. But at the macro level there is a very huge parenting failure going on in USA.

 

Add a fifth core class in K-12 public education which teaches kids about life, the world, our community, how to succeed, how to think logically, how to control emotions, the significance of education, plus whatever else that would make a kid grow up to become a positive, productive, intelligent, and successful person.

http://www.politicalforum.com/educa...ople-becoming-criminals-low-wage-earners.html

 

Video games serves as an outlet for violently predisposed individuals, as do guns.

The problem is that gun's actually do cause harm, while video games can't

 

Why do people want to ban the video games instead of blaming the 90 year-old dummy who carried a loaded pistol in her purse around an eight-year old rugrat? She had 90 years to learn some common sense and failed. So now she's missing what few brains she had because an eight year-old got her loaded gun from her purse and blew her brains out. That should be a lesson to all of the other dummies who have loaded guns around little kids. But since they are dummies they don't have any sense.

 

Again there is not one shred of evidence supporting violent video games make people killers.

 

Yes, the gun was the old lady's.... and it's sounding more and more that this "sitter" was more of a "guardian".
The 90 yr old and 8 yr old shared a bedroom, apparently.
I don't know if there is much of a "parent" involved at all.

Absolutely terrible for this poor child.

Pawned off on a 90 yr old grandmother or great-grandmother....

 

Why do you ask irrelevant questions to people who haven't even stated what you claim they have?

 

People post this chart a lot... along with many others.

I've always wondered why everything spiked in 2008....

 

I think you're missing the point. I believe a child raised in a loving home with parents who instill in them solid morals and values can withstand being exposed to open piles of cocaine on mirrored tables; loaded Uzis with safeties disabled, and porn stars walking around naked in the kitchen drunk and high as a kite.

But why would you want to expose them to it? And what about those children who suffer some dysfunction, and are derailed into a less than savory life as a result?

These are the children which fall victim to the rotten seeds of evil and mayhem which violence in video games - and every other aspect of our contemporary society - instill.

Sure, the occasional Columbine whackadoodle will still manifest itself and be revealed as coming from a 'solid' family - so even supposedly rock solid families aren't guaranteed to produce solid and culturally well-adjusted children - and I believe that our cultural of being wowed by increasingly immersive and realistic video games has the potential to make this problem worse.

In much the same way that our society is polarizing classes (more extreme 'haves', and more extreme 'have nots'), I believe the same is true with violence - and that's where your chart is a form of lying with statistics. Incidents of violence have, IMO, the potential to become more horrific - even if a tabulation of ALL violent acts declines simultaneously - and I believe what provides the impetus for such things is our increasingly anesthetized society, and horribly violent video games is and ingredient in that mix.

So how do you know that your chart isn't merely a lull in violence, as a public stock's chart often shows a drop right before a massive shot upwards?

We don't. So let's be wise and recognize something harmful for what it is.

 

I want to make another point while I'm at it.

It's nearly exclusively liberals who I see in these threads wailing and whining about how Conservatives 'must be for big Government too; they just want it in our lives/bedrooms/wombs/etc' every time a Conservative looks at something which we can recognize as deleterious to society, but this is an issue of morals more than anything else.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

John Adams said that. What's that mean in a climate of immorality? What would John Adams have said about these video games? I'm not certain, but I'll take a guess. It would have been noted as just another indication of the overall depravity of society which has abandoned the principles which guided the formation of this country and Constitution.

Can I say that while simultaneously acknowledging the depravity of things like slavery - commonplace at the time? Sure can. People aren't perfect. You'll note we fought a war which banned slavery. Many Founding Fathers were against such things anyway - though many have attempted to rewrite history on subjects like this.

So will these same people who would try to squelch the point I'm making be against fighting a moral war which excises other manifestations of immorality? Would they bloviate that reinstituting the type of morality which our Constitution can only truly represent would be an example of tyranny?

I suppose to a convict, prison is a form of tyranny.

These attempts to legislate morality were in the past handled on an individual basis by instilled values which were emblematic of our society, and not outliers of it.

And this is one of many byproducts of people like liberals telling us that "things change", and that we should expect that of our core values as well.

We shouldn't even have to be talking about controlling things in our society - like this - which are bad for society. Our own morality should have automatically limited things like this.

And for many or most of us, it has. The problem is that for those who have permitted it, the rest of us are affected anyway. It leaves us no choice but to fight through force of law that which used to be automatically balanced by our sense of right and wrong.

But that is broken now.

 

If you were paying attention - and you weren't - 'poor parenting' isn't an "Or".

 

This is more a problem with 8 year old's getting their hands on firearms, its hard to connect video games to this, it makes no sense at all to do so.

"ASBURY PARK, N.J. — Most victims of gun violence in 2010 were not on a battlefield or remote hillside in the Middle East fighting in a war. They were, like 6-year-old Brandon Holt, children and teenagers in America, according to the Children's Defense Fund"

 

When I was young, I snuck & watched violent movies...

At 8 or 9, I was a huge fan of "A Nightmare on Elm Street" & "Friday the 13th"...

I snuck & played violent games...

I used to play "Mortal Kombat" when I was like 11 or 12...

We fought outside & beat the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of each other...

Bloody noses, black eyes, etc...

Not all the time, of course, but it happened occasionally...

The point is, even through all of that, none of my actual friends that I hung out with are in prison, we never killed anybody, none of that...

Do you know why?

Because we had good parents who taught us the value of life, and to respect others, and all of those good values that parents should be teaching kids...

And now, we all have families, and are teaching the same values to our children...

At any rate, I guess my diatribe wasn't really necessary because, as you said:

and, that was kind of my whole point from the get-go...

Parenting...

 

She did state it.

 

Excellent post. As I had said before, parents can't shield their kids from all violence, but why in God's name would they want to feed it to them and that's exactly what they're doing.....

On a practically daily basis, the young, undeveloped brain of a child is absorbing images of murder, mayhem, shootings, stabbings, strangling - whatever form of violence the creator can come up with - and that's today's 'entertainment' for children. I suppose next they will come up w/graphic images of rape, if they haven't already......

You had mentioned children born w/some neurological dysfunction - excellent point. That reminded me of Adam Lanza, born w/some form of autism and we all know his story. It was said he played a lot of those violent games - just what his sick, dysfunctional brain needed.

Yup, feed the children's brains w/unhealthy food, loaded w/chemicals & other crap, plop them in front of violent video games and violent rv shows, then give yourself a medal for being a 'good' parent....

 

Ok...so...new resolution: violent video games makes you liberal.

Gosh. I'm not sure at all that that's better.

 

You think Real People is a liberal? LOL

 

And, after several exhausting hours, we are calling off the search for relevancy within this post...

 

shut up liberal scum.

LOL

 

I apologize...

I will scurry back to my filthy, no-doubt welfare funded, commie dwelling...lol

 

to worship the Kenyan, Muslim, Marxist, traitor, son of a whore Obama no doubt.