9-11 Truth Movement is dead

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the so-called "movement", is dead.

    it died years ago.

    there are no more marches, no more protests.

    there has been no new investigation. there won't be one.


    all of the goals of the truth movement have failed to materialize.


    what does this mean?

    honesty, justice, integrity, logic, reason, and science won.


    paranoia, fear, prejudice, ignorance lost.

    :salute: :flagus:
     
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    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    So we're left with a nation of liars? That is what you're trying to say. And I take it you're proud of being associated with liars? You do this for free or what? Pathetic.
     
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    For the "truth movement is dead" faction
    WHY bother to post to these forums at all, if indeed the movement is truly dead,
    you need not waste your time with even attempting to rebut the claims of the truth movement.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    It's all about fear and propaganda. They're either terrified of the truth or they're bought and paid for to push this garbage.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there's already been another investigation???

    great!!!

    so who were the 9-11 perps?

    when did they install the thermite? where exactly did they put it?

    who supplied it? how did they activate it to bring down the buildings when it did?

    who fired the rocket that it the Pentagon?

    what kind exactly was it?

    where is flight 93?
     
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    Katzenjammer New Member

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    LOGIC, it is possible to know that you have just observed a trick, without being able to explain how the trick was done.
    think about that for a moment.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some investigation!!!!

    they dont know who, how, when, or where..

    LOL!!!!! pathetic.
     
  9. Blues63

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    The 9/11 truth movement is disorganised and riddled with cranks. It cannot succeed as it has no scientific rebuttal to the accepted version of any merit, nor can 9/11 truth present a prima facie case for a new investigation.. They quote mine firefighters to prove their insane stories without ever checking to see it they are correct. They use 'evidence' supplied by crank groups such as CIT, and associate themselves with anti-Semitic groups. 9/11 truth is not about the 'truth' at all. It is a scam built on lies and is populated by the uneducated, irrational, hysterical and bigoted.

    Every canard presented by 9/11 truth has been disproved: no-planes are insane; dustification is insane, controlled demolition is insane; flying orbs are insane; a missile attack on the Pentagon is insane, and Shanksville being staged is insane.....on and on and on.

    9/11 truth cannot prove its claims such as therm*te (or whatever it is this week), and any other claim for that matter, therefore these claims can be dismissed until they can get it together.

    Yes, 9/11 truth is dead because it never had a case to begin with, and it will remain on the lunatic fringe for that very reason. Furthermore, it needs a good PR company for those promoting these fairy tales are not gifted in the art of persuasive writing (or anything else it seems). 9/11 truth's current tactics are specious and need revision. It is not a valid methodology to just attack the reports and make wild and irrational claims about the many that wrote them, or directed at those who can understand them, 9/11 truth needs to disprove these reports conclusively by presenting a prima facie case for a new investigation. Petty 'rabbit-holing' is not valid as it ignores the empirical evidence.
     
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    For the most part, it was dead when it started if you know anything about physics or aircraft.
     
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    There was never any investigation, coverups are not investigations and neither are scientific frauds. These were the reports from scams masquerading as official investigations:

    http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf
    http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=909017
    http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

    You think truth is dead? You're absolutely right, you'll never get any from the US government. Now go out and celebrate, it's exactly what you want.
     
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    Indeed, it is only the poorly educated or gullible who promote these insane ideas.
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    truth, is subjective and up to interpretation.

    I care about the FACTS, and that's what we have.

    sorry, but your cause failed, miserably.
     
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    This post is a perfect example of my point in post #9. The content being just wild claims presented without evidence. This is typical of the level of argument 9/11 truth has presented thus far, and with this mentality, I don't see how the movement can become mainstream.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it never will.

    not unless insanity and paranoia become mainstream
     
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    No truth is absolute, it's no wonder, you have no clue what truth is.

    We have what we are fed.

    I know, all we have are lies, something you promote and are proud of.
     
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    Well the lie "movement" is mainstream so it stands to reason truth isn't going to displace it any time soon.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i work with a ton of engineers and architects.

    several of them PhD level.

    my boss got his civil engineering Masters at Cooper Union, one of the best engineering colleges on Earth.

    he thinks your "theories", are ignorant garbage.

    :)
     
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    That means Dylan Avery will have to try to find a legitimate way to make a living, instead of being a misinformed punk with a video camera.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hahaha!!!

    I once talked to him in a chat room related to the Loose Change Forum.

    he admitted to me that he was no longer sure that 9-11 was an inside job.

    this was back in I believe 2005.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations and I should care about your alleged job and your alleged boss for what reason?

    Someone who believes truth is "subjective" and "up to interpretation" shouldn't be calling anyone's alleged "theories" "ignorant garbage", especially when you have no clue about my alleged "theories". Then again, truth is dead to you, so it's all about lies now. Got it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how many expert engineers or architects do you associate with on a regular basis?

    how many can you ask complicated questions regarding static and dynamic forces?
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    These "cranks"?

    [video=youtube;aWmcK9O-GxQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWmcK9O-GxQ[/video]

    They're all willing to go on record, identify themselves and stake their reputations.

    And you are who with what standing?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    where's your hero, Judy Woods?

    LOL!!! former dentist. 9-11 Truth expert.

    :)

    what about the guy who said that the wtc towers were like a small piece of a tree falling down on a bigger piece of a tree???

    LOL!!!! what was his name?
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    How many do I need? And why?

    How many do I need? And why?

    Do you have a point? You never do so I doubt any of the above is going to be an exception.
     

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